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  1. J

    Evan Smith sets ET and MPH record for stock domestic cars in 2008 Viper Roadster

    I would like to believe that, but it seems far fetched to me as the tenths you really need are going to be in the first 60' and I don't see how the wing can help that. I said I think I will do it and I do, but the facts are that doesn't make it true! I am going to need good air and good...
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    Evan Smith sets ET and MPH record for stock domestic cars in 2008 Viper Roadster

    I am with Joe I don't consider it stock when you start taking parts off, if there is an option offered on other models of the same car like the old ACR got K&N's and the regular cars didn't so if you put K&N's in a non ACR I would still consider it stock personally. That being said, I have been...
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    Evan Smith sets ET and MPH record for stock domestic cars in 2008 Viper Roadster

    I appreciate that!, but actually it was an 11.61 at 123 bone stock at a Maryland, Virginia VCA event at MIR and many of the guys on this board can attest to it as they were there, and the car only had 250 miles on it to boot. That same day the car with drag radials ran 11.41 and everyone was...
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    Evan Smith sets ET and MPH record for stock domestic cars in 2008 Viper Roadster

    No he didn't! Only 1 car so far has run 10's on runflats and I was driving it, I race with Ranger all the time, call him and ask him.
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    Evan Smith sets ET and MPH record for stock domestic cars in 2008 Viper Roadster

    I swore I wouldn't get into these discussions on the viper board anymore and haven't been on the site in weeks but someone sent me to this thread and since Joe is a friend of mine I thought I would comment a little bit on the issue as Joe is one of the few realists on the board that really knows...
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    ACR 7.22 at the Ring.

    Joe its that (If I own it, its the best mentality!) thats hard for me to deal with! Some poser mentioned the Vette forum wasn't taking whatever their supposed to be talking not very well, how would someone know that if they weren't over there trolling trying to stir up some shiit? Joe I am outta...
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    ACR 7.22 at the Ring.

    Snake I never said with tires the ZR1 was faster I just said I think the cars are pretty evenly matched and with same rubber and driver I thought the results would be different. Thats what I think, that doesn't make it true but it doesn't make it false either. Its ok to have an opinion isn't it...
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    ACR 7.22 at the Ring.

    Troll or should I say poser, I would of thought you would of learned to keep your opinions to yourself especially after that beat down just about every member of this board gave you on your comments on the ACR thread earlier in the week and continuous criticism of just about anything that will...
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    ACR 7.22 at the Ring.

    Man you guys are right what was I thinking? My ACR is probably going to be the fastest car ever built in the world! I am sure every track I take it to it will set a new track record and leave everything else in its dust. Hopefully every viper owner will be happy and claim their viper is the...
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    ACR 7.22 at the Ring.

    Really? I must of missed that because what I saw was 2 cars on 2 different days with different tires in different conditions racing a clock. I always thought to get an azz whippen you had to have something on the track with you? Hell I never even saw official timing gear, start or finish for...
  11. J

    ACR 7.22 at the Ring.

    Yeah that 150 extra hp the ZR1 has probably wouldn't of made any difference:dunno:
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    ACR 7.22 at the Ring.

    Well actually it has been done that way many times in many magazines for many years. I do agree the fastest so far at the ring is the ACR, but crown it king, king of what? king of the ring? I don't think either car should be crowned king unless it continually beats the other in head to head...
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    ACR 7.22 at the Ring.

    Wrong! He is actually a multiple championship Viper Driver with many miles of seat time in a very similar car to the ACR.
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    ACR 7.22 at the Ring.

    Anyone who pays 20k over sticker has to much money or not to many brains IMO, but 2 seconds advantage on a track that takes over 7 minutes to get around is not a lot whichever car was faster. I am just as sure as you are the vette was no more prepped than the viper and since it had no ACR in its...
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    ACR 7.22 at the Ring.

    Well a professional driver can mean a lot more than 4 seconds against a engineer as in the ZR1 video the driver actually lets off down the staight at about 177 mph far before the brake zone. Buts thats 2 bad for them you run what you brung and it looks like the ACR was the better package today...
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    Best Viper tech's in SW FL area??

    Heffner in Sarasota all the way!
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    Saw this new '08 at over $15k off MSRP

    There is no reserve on the car! That is a steal and I personally love the color and when you say a lot are venom red that is relative as most people won't ever even see a viper of any color. If I hadn't put a big deposit down on my ACR I would give it up and buy this car, its a steal! It looks...
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    ACR owner needs a wake up call

    I think you hit it right on! If you can get it, more power to you, get it while you can! I live in Virginia and sales tax for a 100k is only 3k and really 3k over sticker for that car is not a bad price. I ordered mine months ago for msrp and talked to the dealer yesterday and they have no idea...
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    i hate to say it

    Joe people want to believe it because its what they own, and obviously if they don't own it everything else must be inferior? I don't think thats true about everyone but there is a heavy bias and very little objectivity on most sites I frequent. When you do try to be objective with an opinion...
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    i hate to say it

    I hope your wrong because I have a new ACR on the way! but that being said my first pass ever in my Z06 was in the middle of August 90 plus degrees bone stock 11.31 at 128mph. And Joe I know that you are aware that the car has seen 10.98 bone stock on the factory tires last November so you...
  21. J

    i hate to say it

    Unfortunately there is usually so much bias on a particular site, vipers for vipers, vettes for vettes etc, etc that its hard to have a competent debate without name calling of the off brand and its capabilities or lack there of. In the real non biased world the Z and Viper are very close in...
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    i hate to say it

    I have to disagree also the Z06 is now 2nd in the Vette food chain with the ZR1 being the ACR of vettes. I have a new ACR due in any day and I hope its as fast or faster than a ZR1 on a racetrack but I doubt it will be much of a match for the ZR1 in a straight line or on the street.
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    i hate to say it

    Let get the facts straight this wasn't an argument about what beats what, it was an opinion on a factually incorrect statement made by you! And for the record I don't believe the GTR can live up to all the claims made by the rags and when it hits the tracks and its putting up the numbers they...
  24. J

    i hate to say it

    Well let me see? How about its performance? I own many cars, currently my late model cars include Porsche GT2 and Ford GT and I have an ACR due in any day at Woodhouse and of course a Z06. I think the cars I just listed with the exception of the Z06 would meet all the criteria you just listed...
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    i hate to say it

    A Vette is an embarassment to the sports car industry? Get a life! It began the sports car industry and has won 6 consecutive Americans Lemans Series GT1 class titles and the Z06 is one of the fastest cars ever! The only thing embarassing in this post is your spelling and interpretation of a...
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