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    Holy crap...Dodge just announced great incentives to spur sales

    Re: Holy crap...Dodge just hit the panic button on the Viper. Man, this forum. Dodge shows love for Viper owners. Takes definitive action to push inventory and ensure the future of the viper. Retro's the new pricing to current inventory and takes care of, as best they can, the early adopters...
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    Information from Chrysler on 2015 Viper

    Well, there you go using logic, this is internet and magazine readers - I fully expect those results to spin into "look, the base vette was right there with the best viper, wait for the Z06 to come and see what happens, hec the Camaro almost beat the viper, etc" There's logic and people who...
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    Possible 2016 Supercharged

    Definitely. And now that we have tuning for the gen5, the sky is the limit on modding. If we see a FI kit from Arrow or Mopar, the guys looking for huge numbers will be set. With tuning now available the guys who want more power thru bolt on's but not FI, can do just that. We're at a tipping...
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    2013 gts

    What's the sticker? They have a bit of a spread. I think the more loaded GTSs have the best dollar value discounts, as in huge cuts in the $20k+ range at least. $105 sounds good but if the sticker is $130 or 140, makes a diff too. $95k would be a can't pass it up price I think, for a optioned GTS.
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    Possible 2016 Supercharged

    Don't worry Bob, the snobbery won't end. I loved the mag comparo of the Mustang GT (just a 5.0 GT) vs the BMW M3, the mustang won every perf test over the M3, at a fraction of the cost, the result was the BMW took first place and the Mustang 2nd. Why? They literally said, because at the end...
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    Possible 2016 Supercharged

    Agreed, this would make me switch from my gen4 and not think about any other option, even without a vert.
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    May not have to worry about 2015 Z06

    Yea I know that's a cute saying, but then a 700 lb/ft of tq turbo diesel truck would win races against Ferrari's. When defending lower HP cars, this is nice marketing, although they tend to have low tq as well, lol. I'd argue it's easily an equal formula, making tons of tq I one thing, making...
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    May not have to worry about 2015 Z06

    Wondering what you'd buy to get better handling. Considering the fastest 5 laptimes at Laguna are all vipers and Vettes, and then 6th is Mclaren, before going back to a viper again in 7th, are there better handling cars that are yet slower around a road course?
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    May not have to worry about 2015 Z06

    Yea, what they said. Weight to HP isn't a solid ratio to judge actual measured perf anymore. GT-R is the poster child for this in breaking the laws of physics, lol. Also, to give credit where it's due, Vette has always achieved impressive perf #s without eye popping HP #s, the out going Z06...
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    Purchasing Red/White Gen V

    Nice. Perfect quality time to get to know each other ;-) Enjoy and congrats!!
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    Charger Hellcat too

    Well, yea, but since when have buyers of perf cars paid attention to their abilities when shopping for cars? LoL, but seriously. As for handling, I think people look at the vette and see handling isn't an issue with FI, and other exotics running twin & quad turbos, and no handling issues. So...
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    Charger Hellcat too

    Sorry, Bob, I didn't mean the comparison from factory to my mods, I meant from the 2011/12 GT500 to the 2013/14 GT500. SVT added 112hp to the engine and there are virtually no changes to the overall car. I owned both. Owning the '11, with 550hp, we were all nay sayers, me included, that SVT...
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    Charger Hellcat too

    I've been throwing FI on cars since 1989 and it's not as complicated as it appears. Is it as totally simple as not FI, nah, but it's not rocket science either. Pushing NA engines to the limit can be more stressful then a mild engine with FI, while getting the same HP. Nice thing about FI...
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    Charger Hellcat too

    A lot would and a lot wouldn't. Frankly, I think buyers would. I know I would. 15 yrs in vipers but I'm not tied to the v10, I'm tips to the performance. But they'd have to prove a FI solution would work for prolonged track duty.
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    Charger Hellcat too

    As someone who owned a 2011 GT500 and now a 2014 GT500, making 603rwhp off the showroom floor, and with $1400 and 90 mins made 690rwhp, while tame enough for my wife & 20 yr old son to drive with no issue, and sit in DC 495 rush hour traffic on a 98 degree day, etc. These engines & supporting...
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    Charger Hellcat too

    So where was this when I was.in my M5 phase?Awesome. One thing I find interesting is the intro. The guy talks about their incredible redefining cars and mentions several, and no mention of the viper at all. To me, how do you intro with your incredible hell cat and Dart, etc and not mention your...
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    Has anyone yet tried to convert a Viper to "Lambo" doors ??

    Lamborghini doors are my next mod, once I get the viper back from the paint shop, getting a sweet dolphin painted on the hood.
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    The current and future state of Viper sales and technology

    You can buy a brand new viper, with no compromise on cylinders or HP, for $90k-$95k, even with some options. They still are barely selling. It's not the answer. A V8 wouldn't be cheaper, since they can't fit one in the chassis and so it'd require a whole new car design, which they couldn't...
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    The current and future state of Viper sales and technology

    I'm just not believing the price thing. When they first released and everyone jumped on the $140k figure like it was the only price for a viper, thank you mags. and it was chanted how at $100k it was helluva deal, at $140k no one would buy. There are a ton of vipers out there new, with a...
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    horsepower increase for 2015 Viper

    Yea, this. I think the Turbo S is a benchmark to hit in straight line, & that's a tough benchmark to reach, let alone beat. On a circuit I wouldn't be concerned about the Porsche or the GT-R, the Z/28 is another story. Just a sign of how the car world has changed, the Z/28 is slow in a drag...
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    horsepower increase for 2015 Viper

    I agree. I just listed my gen4. I'm shopping lightly and not sure, no matter what you think about whatever with the gen5 it is a lot of car for the "going" prices out there, new. There are new TAs priced lower than used TAs. So late in the summer now, I may wait a bit more, still hoping for...
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    I absolutely love the gen v, but

    But I know a guy who can get you a genV in the $50's if you want ... oh, wait, never mind. Haha, just playin, just playin, that's for the mods. Graphite is my favorite gen2 color, I loved my black RT/10, but when I saw a graphite, no comparison, I know SRT likes to brag about the paint now...
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    GTS Hood on a SRT

    Geesh, another great dealer, I mean owner. Don't let it detract from the car though. These are sweet, but they're not mistakes.
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    GTS Hood on a SRT

    BTW, we know its a GT pkg, because it's stryker green, only avail on the GT pkg or GTS, not available on the SRT base, but I'm sure the dealer knew that too.
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    GTS Hood on a SRT

    Dealer sounds to be like a lot of dealers either silly with bad info or making it sound like it's some one-off car. Per previous posts, that's the way it comes. Face, meet palm.

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