adding wideband O2

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does it matter which side you add a wideband sensor to? I just got my headers(thanks Mike!), and I am going to add a wideband.

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I'd put it on the side closest to where the wire will be routed to wherever the wire needs to go to.

But that is based on no technical experience, just logic.

And trying to get to the dave6666 2.0 before the end of the year.
 
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I am leaning towards the innovative unit, but I will look into the MSD.
 

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I am leaning towards the innovative unit, but I will look into the MSD.

If you are installing a single wideband it becomes a little bit easier to keep the wideband on the same side as the controller. In my case I have the DL32 mounted on the bottom side of the ac duct on the passenger side. On the other hand it is not much harder to cross the tunnel. I come in next to the front part of the passenger side seat. You didn't say which controller you are using, but, the DL32 makes logging so easy. I tie it into the the XD gauge and start the log with the button on the gauge. I just installed dual LC1's (widebands) and found some interesting issues that I didn't see with the single sensor.
 

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I installed one is each bank and wired it up to one gauge. I can switch back and forth with little hassle so I can monitor both sides. I am using two Innovate LC-1s and a XD-16 gauge. Both are wired into the VEC so I can log AFRs with everything else.
I took a trick from Jack's book and mounted the gauge in the stock voltmeter location - thanks Jack!

As far as mounting on one side or the other, I see no advantage to either side. Just install it on the side you think will be easiest. Check the How-tos, DamnYankee has a nice writeup on installing the sensor and the best location in the exhaust - which is where I put mine.

I wanted to monitor both sides since I was tuning the Roe setup myself and wanted to make sure everything was safe. If you are not tuning or heavily modifying, one sensor should be fine.
You could also do what DamnYankee did and install a **** on both sides so you can swap the sensor to the other side for piece of mind.

I have a ton of install pics that I was going to do a writeup with, but this site has pissed me off so much lately that I'm just not motivated enough to contribute that kind of effort.
 

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oops, I just noticed you are not a "member" so you can't get into the how-tos :rolleyes:

I can post a few pics if needed
 

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Don't leave us hanging Jack, what were the issues you found? :omg: :omg:


I am running a 350 shot of nitrous with a single 255 fuel pump and voltage booster. The car is about 850 rwhp. I log fuel pressure because I know I am at the high end of the output. I bring the fuel into the rear of an external fuel rail on the passenger side. From the front of that rail I go to the back of the passenger side rail and the two fuel solenoids.

The car runs a consistent a/f on both sides when running NA. That is at 525 hp. The first time at the strip (after the install of the two O2's) with nitrous I found the drivers side was one point leaner. I flip flopped the O2's, but, it stayed the same, the drivers side was a point lean. The light went on, the drivers side fuel rail is the farthest from the pump and it is after the the passenger side and the two nitrous fuel solenoids, really simple, it is a plumbing problem resulting in a pressure drop at the end of the system.

The most important issue is that I routed it similar to the factory and that is not totally right. The only difference is that my plumbing is external. My guess is that most cars with external rails are plumbed the same way and this is not the right way for high hp applications. The correct way would be to transition to a wye and then go into the back of each fuel rail.
 
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