Attn:Modded vipers without 1/4mile times

[TOOOFST]

Don't be a bench racer or board poser!FYI its annoying to read about your great modds without seeing a 1/4 time.Why would you modd a viper without knowing the 1/4 results.Like making a cake without the frosting.Your improved dyno #'s don't mean your cars faster.The 3.55 gear mod is a classic example.Hundreds of seat of the pants feel(been there)posts and (next to) none of the 1/4 times to back it up.I changed my sig from the impressive 675rw/845tq to 580rw/650tq(140shot),cause I went faster.How many retail tuners have ET's for their packages?
No flame to Modded Homee's,cause modding is next best thing to a lap dance!Just go run er and finish the job

 

[ntmatter]

Well, I don't mean to start a flame war, but I have been modifying my GTS fairly extensively for the last three years and I ran my first quarter mile ever about a month ago. Sorry if you're annoyed, but having you think I'm a poseur never was on my radar screen. If people want to turn their Vipers into confections of carbon fiber, aftermarket HP boosters, and buck-rogers style fins I say let 'em - if and whether they run fast is their business and not anybody elses.

 

[Nexus-6]

I can't speak for others, but not everyone tracks their Viper at the strip...there's lots of twisty stuff that the road racer types prefer that are miles away from the lit tree.

Posting lap times of 1:29.03 just won't have the same ring to it if your reader is unsure of the track and conditions in question. And, if your reader isn't familiar with relative times of other cars, that number won't mean much.

Mods apply to the autox and road racer crews just as much as 1/4 milers...

Just a thought.

 

[onerareviper]

Here's the problem, IMO.

Accidents are not covered by the majority of insurance companies at road courses or 1/4 mile strips - and we all know how freak'in expensive the Viper is to repair/replace.... Therefore, many of us are confined to the street where we are covered. Yeah, it *****, but I for one can't afford the risk. I plan on using the new GTECH to evaluate my performance mods. Not perfect, but better than nothing...

Given, accidents are pretty rare at a 1/4 mile track, but you never know....

 

[TOOOFST]

Nexus-6,I didn't wanna write a book,your excluded for two reasons,all track guys are real men and Texas guys are 2FAST.
Andy,i'm just taking it out on you cause my daughter hurled on me 1/2hr ago.
ORV-Give that G-tech(G stands for garbage)to a ricer guy.The random act of kindness is worth more.

 

[zoomie]

Many of us like twisty off roads, more fun..
and the 1/4 mile strips are a) a ways away,
b) rough local strips, c) un-insured/lose insurance,
d) so busy you get two or three runs for the $$
I got a pDyno, a new accelerometer that works with my Palm/PDA
not only as many runs as you want, charts each run,
60', 0-30-60 etc, 1/4, skidpad Gs, - work on your 60', launch, etc.
AND saves the data for chart/review history on your PC..
includes Excel with macros, etc.
$50 ! www.pdyno.com or eBay.

 

[Paolo Castellano]

Scotty, come up against me on the street and you will find out how excess modding without a time slip can actually beat a car with a time slip! LOL!

==>This will of course only be the case until I go to the Scotty TOOOFST drag racing event on July 19th!

P.S. I am counting on your expertise to help me to go nines!

 

[V10 MOJO]

i gotta call bullshiit on the comment about the gtech being garbage. i bought the gtech pro comp and tried it out on saturday at the track and it was [******] near right on with the time slip every time. since the v10 nats; i for one drag my viper every wednesday and almost every friday. i also roadcourse and do carshows so i guess i do it all. to each his own, i feel as long as you DRIVE the car, youre doing the right thing. my only peeve is a garage queen, LOL

 

[Anthony - 98 GTS]

I agree - I wish I had times to post - but my #3 rod decided to stack one bearing on top of another.

It will be a month or so before I can get to the track.

 

[BigCarrot]

I'll be the first! I went to the track this weekend. I ran FOUR 12.0's in a row! One of which was a 12.000. I could have taken a leak before hand, and run an 11. It definitely has 11's in it! My 60' times were in the high 1.80's, and I know I could do better! Everyone seemed to have sorta slow times that night. Due to the high humidity, I guess.

 

[Moundir]

1/4 #s dont mean crap me, sorry. the mph is what I look for in a car. These cars dont stop running after 1/4 mark, they just start Oh btw these cars turn as well

 

[BYT U L8R]

I could care less about 1/4 mile times. The Viper was made to be on a track, IMO. Curves, hills...Fun stuff like that.

I have just about everything done to my car that can be and I will never run 1/4 mile.

Also, as stupid as it may sound, how hard can you brake and slow down your car. These are things that make a balanced car.

Later

 

[Nexus-6]

Heya Carrot!

Did you get your VEC1 dialed in on the dyno? What did ya end up with on the settings and actual numbers?

Did you go to Ennis this weekend? Give me a shout next time you head down...

 

[FE 065]

Where'd that come from? There's no mandate to take a modded Viper to the strip.
Where'd you get that notion? Take a pill. Have a smoke. Relax.

 

[TOOOFST]

Where'd that come from? There's no mandate to take a modded Viper to the strip.
Where'd you get that notion? Take a pill. Have a smoke. Relax.

This post is directed to those owners with viper mods POSTED ON SIG.I'm always relaxed and never annoyed.FYI The way we make our vipers faster is to track test it.I'm just asking the guys with heavy modded vipers here to run em.I fabricate and design NOS systems and bracketry.There's alot of prototype engineering still to come with vipers.
Take a pill.Have a smoke right back at ya viper brother.

 

[BigCarrot]

Heya Carrot!

Did you get your VEC1 dialed in on the dyno? What did ya end up with on the settings and actual numbers?

Did you go to Ennis this weekend? Give me a shout next time you head down...

Yeah, I got it dialed in. I ended up at +16 -20. I don't know that it really helped. I ended up with 455hp and 487tq. I attribute some of that to a cooler day, but who knows. I did go to Ennis Friday. There were four Vipers out there, and we had a blast. I wish I would have been bracket racing, because my car was actually incredibly consistent! It was pretty muggy, so I hope to break 11's on a day that is a little less humid.

 

[Nexus-6]

Cool - what were you #s before hand? Any real gains?

Also, how many runs did ya make before arriving at +16 / -20? Was there much difference between +8 and +16 for example?

 

[BigCarrot]

My before hand numbers were 445&487. It was on a much hotter day though. I did 4 or 5 runs to get the air fuel right. Who knows? These cars are very much affected by temperature, so it's hard to get a real concrete number. My car, hot, makes about 20hp less than it does when it's cool.

 

[Snakester]

TooFast,

What jetting did you use for 140HP? And what was your A/F range? Just curious.

-Dean.

 

[Fishtail]

1/4 #s dont mean crap me, sorry. the mph is what I look for in a car. These cars dont stop running after 1/4 mark, they just start Oh btw these cars turn as well

I couldn't agree more! MPH tells more about horsepower in a street car. There's not enough suspension work done in my car to allow great ET's with the horsepower I have. I'm fast and I know I'm fast and that's fast enough

-Lou

 

[Tom Welch]

Yo Brotha Toof,

Raise up and git your travel on to check it at the BTR website. There it be, the 9 SECOND PACKAGE, chillin with a flat splif and beeen installed on Vipers while you get your drink on and your snack on readin this *****...*****!

No brothas and I mean NO brothas is goin quicker for less!

PEACE

 

[Newport Viper]

Can't we all just get along!!!!! My favorite mod is the last one in my sig!

 

[Moundir]

hey Maui got a pic of that cup holder, I need one too I am working on that dvd btw.

 

[JGK95]

No flame to Modded Homee's,cause modding is next best thing to a lap dance!Just go run er and finish the job

Is this debateable? I think the Lap Dance idea may just have be recompared over and over again to verify the above claim.

Yo Tom,

Get yo Travel on at Ghetto Delta airlines Yo! Ahiite!

 

[varanus]

Not everyone wants to spend the money to find out what it does in the 1/4 mile
Consider the cost of a 10 sec viper after the hp mods
at the track you need:
roll bar plus intsallation-about $2,000
safety loops about $250
5 point harnesses $250
Tranny blanket, approved harmonic balancer, gloves, helmet, jacket. I'm sure there is more stuff needed to be legal
Don't forget a slicks and skinnies too.
At out track people have been tossed for running 11.9 even though they are regulars, run straight, and had no accidents.
Now maybe your track let's things slide, but the 2 within 150 miles of the San Francisco Bay Area are pretty strict.
I was asked to not run when I ran an 11.7

 

[TOOOFST]

Snakester Nos jetting for 580rw/650tq is 52/36 giving you a 10:1 a/f at 5500.You definatley can squeeze more hp and tq leaning it a bit.I run it rich,keeping the motor cool and problem free.

 

[Gerald]

ack! I've never tracked mine.. I guess I'm a ****!!!

 

[Snakester]

TooFast,

I thought that 52/33 was 200HP jetting.

What would 46/24 jets yield?

-Dean.

 

[J DAWG]

To each their own. I like to do it all. Strip and road courses. Depends on my mood.

However, it would be nice to see some #'s by some of the queens only because I love to watch the cars race and it gives me something to shoot for.