CONTRARY TO WHATS BEEN STATED EBC GREEN PADS 7%BETTER STOPPING THEN OE

[WANTED]

lots of guys here think the EBC GREEN PADS have less stopping power then the OE
BREMBO. well let me tell ya YOUR WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EBC GREEN PADS - LESS DUST, NO SQUEAL, 7%BETTER STOPPING POWER THEN OE BREMBO


YES EBC HAS DOCUMENTATION ON ALL OF THEIR PADS, JUST ASK JOHN B FROM PARTSRACK


A BIG THANK YOU TO JOHN FOR GIVING OUT THIS INFORMATION


FOR THE UNINFORMED - PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT

tom

 

[94RT10Ohio]

Where is the best place (cost wise) to pickup a set for a GEN I? Just taking my car out for a 40 miles drive my wheels (Which are GEN II FE wheels) are full of dust!

 

[LETHAL GTS]

lots of guys here think the EBC GREEN PADS have less stopping power then the OE
BREMBO. well let me tell ya YOUR WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EBC GREEN PADS - LESS DUST, NO SQUEAL, 7%BETTER STOPPING POWER THEN OE BREMBO


YES EBC HAS DOCUMENTATION ON ALL OF THEIR PADS, JUST ASK JOHN B FROM PARTSRACK


A BIG THANK YOU TO JOHN FOR GIVING OUT THIS INFORMATION


FOR THE UNINFORMED - PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT

tom

I gather you haven't tried anything but EBC's and OEM's.
I wouldn't just go waving your victory flag just yet. Until you really try OEM, EBC Greens and BM3's on the TRACK. I don't give a flying f**k what the stats say. Anyone who tracks their cars will tell you that EBC greens are like signing a death wish on the track. I wasn't the one that was saying the EBC's were a downgrade. I could go back and check who it was, but I'm sure you know judging by the temperature of this post. But here again depending on what you are going to do with your car, EBC's could be a downgrade and I would clearly run OEM's over the EBC for the stopping power. Try a few runs up over 160mph and try to stop your car as fast as you can. I mean lay into those brakes. Now do that three or four times. Just make sure the last couple times you have lots of room left over, because you're gonna need it. The OEM's will be more consistant once the temp gets up. Now no law abiding citizen would do this on the street, which is why I run the EBC's on my car on the street.

Where is the best place (cost wise) to pickup a set for a GEN I? Just taking my car out for a 40 miles drive my wheels (Which are GEN II FE wheels) are full of dust!

JonB the fella that Wanted is quoting here.

 

[Tom F&L GoR]

How was it measured?

 

[Randy]

For the street, I agree EBC Greens stop better than stock at street brake pad temperatures, and are about half the price of stock (and also last 1/2 to 3/4's as long, but with less rotor wear because they are indeed softer, so a net win there, also).

For the track, I'd not use EBC greens - they aren't designed for track temps (and neither are the stock pads); they will fade badly and wear out in just a few laps. For track use, you could try EBC yellow, but there are a couple of other pads that reportedly do better on the track - I'd ask the racers for this one.

HOWEVER, nor would you want to use track pads on the street, either. No track pad will get anywhere near its operating temperature on the street and thus won't stop as well as even the stock pads *on the street*. In my experience, most/all track pads squeal pretty bad on the street, also.

So, use EBC Greens for the street, and use different pads for the track (I do).

 

[WANTED]

lots of guys here think the EBC GREEN PADS have less stopping power then the OE
BREMBO. well let me tell ya YOUR WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EBC GREEN PADS - LESS DUST, NO SQUEAL, 7%BETTER STOPPING POWER THEN OE BREMBO


YES EBC HAS DOCUMENTATION ON ALL OF THEIR PADS, JUST ASK JOHN B FROM PARTSRACK


A BIG THANK YOU TO JOHN FOR GIVING OUT THIS INFORMATION


FOR THE UNINFORMED - PUT THAT IN YOUR PIPE AND SMOKE IT

tom

I gather you haven't tried anything but EBC's and OEM's.
I wouldn't just go waving your victory flag just yet. Until you really try OEM, EBC Greens and BM3's on the TRACK. I don't give a flying f**k what the stats say. Anyone who tracks their cars will tell you that EBC greens are like signing a death wish on the track. I wasn't the one that was saying the EBC's were a downgrade. I could go back and check who it was, but I'm sure you know judging by the temperature of this post. But here again depending on what you are going to do with your car, EBC's could be a downgrade and I would clearly run OEM's over the EBC for the stopping power. Try a few runs up over 160mph and try to stop your car as fast as you can. I mean lay into those brakes. Now do that three or four times. Just make sure the last couple times you have lots of room left over, because you're gonna need it. The OEM's will be more consistant once the temp gets up. Now no law abiding citizen would do this on the street, which is why I run the EBC's on my car on the street.

Where is the best place (cost wise) to pickup a set for a GEN I? Just taking my car out for a 40 miles drive my wheels (Which are GEN II FE wheels) are full of dust!

JonB the fella that Wanted is quoting here.

i have lots of respect for you guys who track your cars and agree you are the
most qualified to state what they can and cant do my post was meant for
the one's who go by hear say, never race and dont have a rats arss idea as to
what they are talking about hope this makes it a little clearer.

 

[SylvanSRT]

great for less dust. remember to keep an eye on the wear as I mentioned in one of your other threads(they do wear at a much quicker rate than the stock pads)

 

[01sapphireGTS]

I was pursuaded to get on the EBC Green band wagon (for very casual street use) to eliminate the dust and squeel of the OEM pads. They may stop some better than stock but do not put off less dust and do not squeel less. I will probably put the old OEM pads back on just to eliminate the stupid looking green pads that are now visible thru the wheels...

I drive about 15 miles and have dark gray wheels and "factory installed" squeel. Pound for pound my BMW stops far better than my High performance viper. These Dodge brakes ****. I drive about 500 miles per year and almost never brake hard, if anyone has a solution for the dust and squeel, PM me, I'm listening.

My greens were approx $57 front / $57 back.

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

Unless EBC has come out with a new formula recently I'd bet bars of soap would stop better. Ironically though, Dial won't keep your wheels as clean.

For the record I run EBC on the street. And I get them from Steve Pasztor 972-743-9443 at GreatBrakes.com

 

[Don]

BS, I've had both and am currently running the EBC Greens on my 01. The day I changed them I could feel that they had less stopping power. The lower brake dust is a plus, but I sure felt like I was stopping on a dime with the OEM's.

 

[Rollin4]

Chuck and Don I'm with you. Stock pads definitely stopped better. ...But no dust and squeal is nice.

 

[95Viper]

I was pursuaded to get on the EBC Green band wagon (for very casual street use) to eliminate the dust and squeel of the OEM pads. They may stop some better than stock but do not put off less dust and do not squeel less. I will probably put the old OEM pads back on just to eliminate the stupid looking green pads that are now visible thru the wheels...

I drive about 15 miles and have dark gray wheels and "factory installed" squeel. Pound for pound my BMW stops far better than my High performance viper. These Dodge brakes ****. I drive about 500 miles per year and almost never brake hard, if anyone has a solution for the dust and squeel, PM me, I'm listening.

My greens were approx $57 front / $57 back.

01SapphireGTS, Now that is a new one. I sure hope you very accurately followed the install and breakin procedures because after just a few miles, maybe 20 or 30, I cleaned my wheels and they produce at least half the dust than OEM. Did you scuff the rotors with the 3M tool or at least work them over aggressively with a greenie? You have to get the OEM material off.

Also, should have painted the green with VHT1500 black. If not, fugly.

 

[PDCjonny]

Give up stopping power for less brake dust????
This is a joke right? The brakes are bad enough on the earlier non ABS models like mine, I can't imagine that trade-off.

 

[LETHAL GTS]

No, I can stop fine with EBC greens. They just aren't great at high temps on the track.
You can flat spot your front tires no problem with the EBC greens Jon!

 

[2002_Viper_GTS_ACR]

I dont care what anyone else says.. I have a 2002 ACR with ABS and my EBC greens **** for full out brake force.. went back to stock and just wash my wheels more often.. better then the alternative, of giving up some braking ability.

Jon

 

[JonB]

I dont understand the sarcasm....Supplier bashing for entertainment? You took this totally out of context with this new thread. The full explaination and comparo was given in a different thread, where someone (you?) asked for EBC documention. Lots of Owners are very happy w/ EBC because it MEETS THEIR DRIVING STYLE. And a very accomplished track rat like Chuck knows to use them on the STREET only....with the expected results.

Don't shoot the messenger. As stated on EBC boxes, If you DONT properly prep used rotors, you will NOT have good initial results. (but Neither will unburnished race pads!) As part of that in-context reply, I merely mentioned how EBC performed comparative tests. I received the info from Kingman Hitz and Steve Pasztor of Great Brakes. I have personally used and tested the pads I mentioned in that reply.

I would NEVER suggest that Greens be used on track events. They are a cruise-in-street pad only, as also stated in the prior thread.

 

[v10kingsnake]

jon, not sure who your comments are speaking towards but I merely see this post as several people expressing their personal experience with the ebc greens. not sure i read where anyone had given you a personal attack but i scanned the replies fairly fast. i have no experience with the greens myself but have with jon at parts rack and i can tell you that anyone in the viper community that bad mouths a man like jon isnt themselves an upstanding worthy member of the viper community. hope this makes you feel all warm and fuzzy again inside jon boy!

 

[2001ViperGTS]

I don't track my car and I am tired of the squealing (and a little less brake dust would be good too). I am guessing the EBC green pads would be fine for me. If I decide to go this route should I get front and back pads? Where is the cheapest place to get these?

 

[v10kingsnake]

you need to read the posts, some prefer, great brakes, others prefer parts rack... i happen to prefer to support those that support the site and support the viper community. this makes Jon B. the winner. but you can get these pads from many many different places. prices should all be fairly comparable i would think.

 

[JonB]

jon, not sure who your comments are speaking towards but I merely see this post as several people expressing their personal experience with the ebc greens. not sure i read where anyone had given you a personal attack but i scanned the replies fairly fast. i have no experience with the greens myself but have with jon at parts rack and i can tell you that anyone in the viper community that bad mouths a man like jon isnt themselves an upstanding worthy member of the viper community. hope this makes you feel all warm and fuzzy again inside jon boy!

Thanks.... Im calm.... Ommmmmmmm..... I thot the "put that in yur pipe and smoke it" was a bit aggressive. And I was mis-quoted out of context. Esp since we NEVER suggest EBC Greens for track use, and neither do Steve/King/Anyone knowledgable. GREENS are what they are: Good, Low-Cost, Low-Dust, No Squeek, street use / Drag Race pads. Also OK for an occasional AutoX, but others are BETTER for that....

 

[2001ViperGTS]

you need to read the posts, some prefer, great brakes, others prefer parts rack...

I read every post. I didn't ask where everyone prefers, I asked where I could get them the cheapest. I haven't really searched different prices and thought maybe someone was having a great deal right now (similar to another thread on emblems). I am getting a great deal on the emblems and thought maybe today I could get brake pads discounted too I'll probably order from JonB anyway, just wanted to inquire first.

 

[WANTED]

I dont understand the sarcasm....Supplier bashing for entertainment? You took this totally out of context with this new thread. The full explaination and comparo was given in a different thread, where someone (you?) asked for EBC documention. Lots of Owners are very happy w/ EBC because it MEETS THEIR DRIVING STYLE. And a very accomplished track rat like Chuck knows to use them on the STREET only....with the expected results.

Don't shoot the messenger. As stated on EBC boxes, If you DONT properly prep used rotors, you will NOT have good initial results. (but Neither will unburnished race pads!) As part of that in-context reply, I merely mentioned how EBC performed comparative tests. I received the info from Kingman Hitz and Steve Pasztor of Great Brakes. I have personally used and tested the pads I mentioned in that reply.

I would NEVER suggest that Greens be used on track events. They are a cruise-in-street pad only, as also stated in the prior thread.

hey jon i was the one asking for documention and i started the tread. i thanked
you for posting what you did. I AM A EBC GREEN PAD FAN i was getting
tired of some stating fact without documention. i even posted how to correctly
install them. i think the one's having problems either didn't do the install
correctly or have other issue's with their brakes. FOR THE GUYS WHO TRACK THEIR
CARS, I RESPECT THEIR OPINION, THEY PUSH IT TO THE EDGE. since installing mine
my brakes work fine if not better then with the OEM. (IMHO) little to no dust
and NO SQUEAL at all. i am not tracking my car so SUPER SUPER BRAKING IS NOT
IMPORTANT TO ME, THE MAIN PEDAL I USE IS THE GAS PEDAL ANYHOW . to get
back to the point I STAND BEHIND YOU JON and appreciate your input on this thread.
i just want guys who are thinking about doing this to get the CORRECT INFO which
you gave hope this makes it clear.

thanks, tom

 

[GR8_ASP]

I had EBC greens on for 2 years (enough time to evaluate???). For dust they were great. Once warm (not track hot, but street warm) they were okay. I would say in my opinion the brake pedal pressure needed was higher for equal stopping. But cold they were darn near dangerous. That first stop of the day was scary.

I will never again try them to find out if my experience was an anomaly or normal experience. To me the stopping power is first and foremost and not something negotiated for less dust.

My $0.02

 

[01sapphireGTS]

95viper: I did not do the install, so I'm not sure if proper (or any) prep was done to the OEM rotors. And yes, I should have painted them. I didn't open the box until the day they were getting put on, so then I was stuck looking at a green abortion in a box.

As it seems maybe both of my complaints could have been avoided with proper prep work...

 

[SYNFULL]

I put the greens on my car with new rotors. They work great for me. At least half the dust of the originals and the don't squeal. I can't tell any difference in their stopping power.
Gary

 

[2000gtsgsxr1000]

I've never noticed any squeal with my 2000.The pads haven't been changed and there is plenty of dust.I just make sure I rinse well before wiping.Maybe the stereo was to loud to hear any squeal.

 

[Bandit400]

My two cents, I will be replacing my EBC greens. Stock pads stop much better than these. Yes the greens dust less but I rather have the stopping ability.

Bandit400