Dodge Viper vs. USAF F-16 Viper:

[JonB]

Getting excited for this weekend's VCA fesitivities at LUKE AFB w/ AZ VCA. Wrote these (rejected) "Rules Of Engagement" for your examination.......... If I can get em to paste........

<center><FONT size="6">Rejected Rules of Engagement for the Viper Club of America's Dodge Viper vs. F-16 Viper Drag Races</FONT s></center>

- Race distance shall be 1/2 Mile. 0 - 2640 feet. No points of any kind awarded for altitude.

- Both vehicles may utilize Michelin Racing Slicks if desired.

- Both vehicles to depart with full fuel loads. And full armament. (No arms to be used during/after race.)

- Dodge to disconnect V-1 Radar Detector - - - F-16 to disconnect TWS (Threat Warning Systems).

- No fuel-enhancement devices of any kind may be utilized (octane boosters, NOS, Afterburners, etc,)

- Dodge will not utilize our powerful 6th-gear overdrive - - - F-16 to avoid use of Afterburner.

- Dodge Viper has civilized noise decibel volume - - - F-16 is therefore encouraged to avoid Afterburners.

- In case of a tie or photo finish: First vehicle back to the starting line WINS !

In order to assist all parties with their bench racing excuses afterwards, we provide the following data:

<FONT COLOR="red">DODGE VIPER</FONT c>        <FONT COLOR="blue">USAF F-16 VIPER</FONT c>

Weight: <FONT COLOR="red">3300 lb.</FONT c>        <FONT COLOR="blue">33,000 lb.</FONT c>
Drive:<FONT COLOR="red">Rear Wheel Drive</FONT c>        <FONT COLOR="blue">No wheel Drive</FONT c>
Power:<FONT COLOR="red">500 hp</FONT c>        <FONT COLOR="blue">23,000 lb. thrust</FONT c>
Powerplant:<FONT COLOR="red">10-cylinder Dodge</FONT c>        <FONT COLOR="blue">1 cylinder Pratt-Whitney</FONT c>
Intake:<FONT COLOR="red">2.375 inch inlet throttle body x 2</FONT c>        <FONT COLOR="blue">34.8 inch throttle body x 1</FONT c>
Top Speed:<FONT COLOR="red">200 mph (then classified)</FONT c>        <FONT COLOR="blue">1350 mph (then classified)</FONT c>
Range:<FONT COLOR="red">300 miles (then out of gas)</FONT c>        <FONT COLOR="blue">1260 miles (then classified)</FONT c>
Combat range:<FONT COLOR="red">1/4 mi. - 8.0 miles (racetracks)</FONT c>        <FONT COLOR="blue">575 miles</FONT c>
Ops altitude:<FONT COLOR="red">0- 1 inch (not recommended)</FONT c>        <FONT COLOR="blue">50 ft - 40,000 ft (then classified)</FONT c>
Ops ceiling:<FONT COLOR="red">0 - 2 inch (not recommended)</FONT c>        <FONT COLOR="blue">50,000 feet (then classified)</FONT c>
Cruise@ceiling:<FONT COLOR="red">1 second</FONT c>         <FONT COLOR="blue">3 hours</FONT c>
Inflight refueling:<FONT COLOR="red">None</FONT c>         <FONT COLOR="blue">Yes</FONT c>
Pilots:<FONT COLOR="red">5 (4 are Michelin Pilots, that is)</FONT c>        <FONT COLOR="blue">1.</FONT c>
Canopy:<FONT COLOR="red">Removable, SRT-10 only</FONT c>        <FONT COLOR="blue">Removable in emergencies only.</FONT c>
Cockpit:<FONT COLOR="red">2 person; (usually, one is a fine lady.)</FONT c>  <FONT COLOR="blue">1-2 seats, (usually 1 hard-legged dude.)</FONT c>
Seating:<FONT COLOR="red">2 Leather, reclinable</FONT c>        <FONT COLOR="blue">1-2 Nylon, ejectable</FONT c>

HISTORY: Thunderbirds: Since 1953, Showcasing American Air Power in the Jet Age
Dodge Viper: Since 1992, Showcasing American Horsepower for the New Millennium

MISSION: USAF: To protect the airways, and intimidate aggressor nations.
DODGE VIPER: To protect the highways, and intimidate aggressive drivers.

THEME SONGS: <FONT COLOR="red">Dodge Viper: “Magic Carpet Ride”</FONT c>     <FONT COLOR="blue">USAF: “Wild Blue Yonder”</FONT c>

 

[Vic]

Rules of Engagement?

Like no missles?

 

[Lidquidsilver]

omg my brother is going to love this he's in the airforce lol lol

 

[cstegall]

JonB,

Where, in the recesses of your mind, do you come up with this stuff!!!

Great job...

Clark

 

[JonB]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cstegall:
JonB, Where, in the recesses of your mind, do you come up with this stuff!!! Great job... Clark <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

RECESS was always my favorite activity! I hope to do some serious trash-talking w/ the USAF this weekend.......

I even have a Vanity Plate along with me: F16 NEXT

from the Nebraska VCA president! Should be FUN !

 

[bad viper]

I'm going to try to video it.

 

[Jason-Middle Tennessee]

Please post pictures and/or a video after the event. Good Luck!!

 

[Marv S]

Ripley's is supposed to be filming.

Jason, Great to meet you last weekend. See you in Sept. for sure.

F-16 trivia: You may know that the F-16 is formally known as the Fighting Falcon.

BUT, did you know the fighter pilots informally named the F-16 "VIPER" ? The F-16, because of its lethality, has earned an impressive combat record in the Middle East and in the Balkans. Operated by 21 air forces across the globe, the F-16 has won 70 air-to-air battles without a loss, even against the MiG-29 Fulcrum. There are nearly 1,000 F-16s stationed in Europe with nine air forces.

Can the Jet handle? How about 9-G's? With a full load of internal fuel, the F-16 can withstand up to nine G's -- nine times the force of gravity -- which exceeds the capability of other current fighter aircraft.
http://www.af.mil/news/press_releases/0628008print.html
http://www.af.mil/news/factsheets/F_16_Fighting_Falcon.html


But wait, there's more:
A local club member turned up some more trivia on the Viper Jet name......
I'll give a clue:

You must be registered for see images

 

[Motor City Mad Man]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Marv S:
But wait, there's more:
A local club member turned up some more trivia on the Viper Jet name......
I'll give a clue:

You must be registered for see images

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Would that be the Battlestar Gallactica ship?

 

[Marv S]

You're pretty quick. I was going to give out a gift certificate to the first one at the event to get it correct but we figured it would be too tough.

The Rest of the story comes from an AZ member:

Yes, the pilots did informally name it the Viper, rather than the production name of Falcon by General Dynamics and the military brass.

However the actual origin that led the pilots to name it the viper is more interesting ;-) ...

In the late 1970's and the early 1980's Battlestar Galactica was the hot TV program. The lethal fighter craft used by the Colonial Warriors in Battlestar Galactica were named "Viper", and they looked somewhat like the F-16. Some employees at General Dynamics who were fans of the show, as well as some Air Force Pilots, decided to give it the nickname of the Viper. I found a reference in the April 1980 issue of Aviation Week & Space Technology Despite resistance from the brass, the name picked up steam, and stuck. Today, certainly at Luke, the F-16 bears the nickname proudly and openly ..

 

[JonB]

Im happy to report that the "RULES" were a hit with the USAF, and several mentioned that "bootleg copies" were being widely circulatedin flight ops. The show-side announcer read the "RULES" to the crowd of 100,000 prior to the race....

On another note: The Nebraska VCA prez (Mark ____) loaned me his Nebraska vanity plate: F16 NEXT which Herb Helbig afixed to the SRT-10 ! It was also a big hit, with many photos snapped of that, parked next to the F-16

 

[BlackACR]

Hey JonB I think that F-16 needs a set of HF cats. The exhaust seems to stink and it is not legal.

 

[cstegall]

Hey Jon..

I'm thinkin..you could open up a whole new division of PartsRack...you know:

"If it fits on or in a F-16...PartsRack probably has it."

Clark

 

[Tomer]

Uh, there HAS to be a pic or two from this race...Can anyone post, we are desperate out here!

Tomer