IMHO - NO NEWS IS GOOD NEWS FOR SRT OWNERS

[WANTED]

Remember I have owned 2 srt's.

With Dodge not making any announcements for the future VIPER'S it gives everyone
who owns a srt time to sell or keep it and be happy with their decision. At this
point I think price has a bench mark set for NEW or USED. If dodge had said whats
next the value of the srt's would have taken another hit. Guys who have purchased
recently or plan to buy one will not take to large a hit WHEN and IF(POSSIBLE)
the next VIPER becomes available. Why Dodge never slowed or stopped production
of the srt is beyond me. For almost 3 years the only color's were RED,BLACK and
SILVER with little to no changes. Then came year 4 with UNLIMITED SPECIAL EDITIONS
and the COUPE. GEN III has not been kind to the VIPER in many ways so maybe its
just best to end it and come out with the GEN IV having more HP and BACK to the
SHOCK and AWE appearance. By starting anew this should help stop the downward slide
of pricing for all srt's which really are a great car, just not the best looking
VIPER ever produced. The new VIPER will be faster, better and COST MORE which
means if someone wants a BRAND NEW VIPER AT A GREAT PRICE NOWS THE TIME TO BUY
IT.

Now that Dodge has waited to make any statement as far as the NEW VIPER this is
your chance to either BUY or SELL and dont post CRYING about what happen to the
value of the SRT.

NOWS THE TIME DODGE JUST GAVE YOU A GIFT.

 

[VENOMAHOLIC]

Great post. If I had the extra cash now I would be taking advantage of the awesome deals myself. I took a couple drives this week and loved every minute. It is funny that the few people that mentioned the Z06 to me being faster did not even own a supercar of their own. I never plan to sell my Viper so getting a new Viper will take longer without trading in and I am not in a rush for a second just yet.

 

[PatentLaw]

If you like your car, keep your car. The elevator is still going down, however.

 

[DodgeViper01]

If you like your car, keep your car. The elevator is still going down, however.

Very well said. The price is very nice right now but if you put mileage on it, forget it. 10,000 miles can be thousands less. I just wondering where this pricing comes from but I am not complaining. The good thing is though, after $55,000, they rarely drop more unless there are 20,000+ miles and or it is a car in bad condition.

 

[PatentLaw]

Agreed. For some reason, that seems to be the "floor" for the market. Why? I have no idea.

 

[Vipermann]

Don't agree at all ... the SRT was the first Viper roadster to appeal to me ... I never liked the looks of the Gen 1 cars (not to mention the lower quality of the earlier generations) ...

 

[Alexarz]

I don't agree with WANTED stating that the new Viper is not the best looking version. Like Vipermann, I like the Gen III far better than the earlier Vipers. I like the older Vipers also, but the new one is damn near perfect. It's obviously a matter of opinion but it is offensive when someone like WANTED states his opinion as though it is fact. Perhaps he should spend some time making his Viper faster so it won't embarrass us anymore by losing drag races to Z06's.

 

[WANTED]

I don't agree with WANTED stating that the new Viper is not the best looking version. Like Vipermann, I like the Gen III far better than the earlier Vipers. I like the older Vipers also, but the new one is damn near perfect. It's obviously a matter of opinion but it is offensive when someone like WANTED states his opinion as though it is fact. Perhaps he should spend some time making his Viper faster so it won't embarrass us anymore by losing drag races to Z06's.

Alexarz if my post hurt your feelings or other Gen III owners that really was
not my intentions. READ the very first thing stated in my post tread ( IMHO ).
IMHO means my opinions NOT FACTS. Cars come in different colors and designs, verts/
coupes during the same model year, there is a reason for that. If I didn't like
the looks myself I would have NEVER PURCHASED 2 SRT/10'S so to flame me for stating
my opinion and try to sell everyone that I speak as tough it is fact its just
NOT TRUE. I hope the majority of everyone here knows how I really feel and what
point I was trying to make in my post.

THIS IS FOR YOU ALEXARZ - POINT OF MY POST

1 - IT COULD NOT BE A BETTER TIME TO BUY A BRAND NEW VIPER ($$$$$$$$$$$)
2 - IF YOU PLAN TO SELL YOUR SRT NOW WOULD BE THE BEST TIME BEFORE ANY ANNOUCEMENT
OF MORE HP OR SLIGHT DESIGN CHANGE ON GENIII'S. WHEN AND IF THAT HAPPENS
IT WILL EFFECT PRICING OF CURRENT GENIII'S IN A NEGATIVE WAY.
3 - BASICALLY EITHER (**IT) OR GET OFF THE ***.

Lastly I probably should not even comment on it but I will. YOU stated as if I
embarrassed viper owners ( us as you stated ) for losing drag race's to Z06's as
if it were FACT, DID YOU MEAN IMHO?

GENII RT/10 - TUBES/FILTERS/MOPAR EXHAUST - 11.51 @ 122.16 MPH, EMBARRASSED?

ALEXARC GO REVIEW SOME OF MY POST DEFENDING THE SRT AND YOU WILL FIND FACTS ON
HOW I REALLY FEEL ABOUT THE GENIII'S.

Tom

 

[EllowViper]

Hummm, and old wise man once told me to choose your battles wisely. I have to side with WANTED on this one. "IMO", WANTED has carried the Viper torch proudly for the greater Viper community aka his antics on the drag strip and other comparisons vs Z06 with Ranger. I enjoy his posts and perspectives as such and take them in the manner intended. As a side note and to further fuel the Gen II vs Gen III debate, my wifey who really has no opinion either way, saw a blue 06 coupe on the road and simply stated to me "looks like a Vette"...from the mouth of babes...Enthusiasts/Owners have their perspectives which are great, but I thought the unsolicited comment from the MRS was enlightening.

 

[Andrew/USPWR]

That for the free advise “WANTED”. Personally I don’t think I’ll ever make money on a car, or even break even. It’s purely a selfish and expensive thrill for me just to own and drive a Dodge Viper. I’m perfectly content with my SRT/10, as I was with the GTS. If Dodge comes out with a new and improved Gen 3.5 or 4, I’m sure I’ll want one, but I live day to day and would not put my like on hold for what my being coming out in the future. JMHO

 

[PDCjonny]

Well now lets see. We have a newly registered member named Alex, who just arrived on the scene 9/23. Within a few posts, he's already making wise ass comments to people who have been around MUCH longer, with MUCH more to offer.

Does this new member remind us of a certain ****** recently banned for the third time?

Could 56LesPaul/Snakesonaplane/LongIslandAsshat have once again slipped into our midst with yet another IP address? The style is familar. Anyone want to bet?

 

[SylvanSRT]

i think DCX is letting the dust settle and the old inventory go off the shelf before the next new and better product makes a big public bang, we(people in the viper community) already know its coming. deliveries will begin in feb '07 of gen 3.5, and that's a fact!

 

[InjectTheVenom]

i think DCX is letting the dust settle and the old inventory go off the shelf before the next new and better product makes a big public bang, we(people in the viper community) already know its coming. deliveries will begin in feb '07 of gen 3.5, and that's a fact!

Agreed

 

[Racer Robbie]

I have always felt that the SRT is the best looking viper ever. I really do not like the look of the RT-10 but do like the GTS Coupe. With the SRT we have a car you can drive anytime, anywhere, including in the rain. Believe me when I tell you my viper is not a garage queen. As for what my viper is worth I really do not care as I have never bought any of my cars on account of what they will be worth. I buy them because I love the way they look, love the design, and love to drive them.

 

[DodgeViper01]

Well now lets see. We have a newly registered member named Alex, who just arrived on the scene 9/23. Within a few posts, he's already making wise ass comments to people who have been around MUCH longer, with MUCH more to offer.

Does this new member remind us of a certain ****** recently banned for the third time?

Could 56LesPaul/Snakesonaplane/LongIslandAsshat have once again slipped into our midst with yet another IP address? The style is familar. Anyone want to bet?

You have a good eye for these things. I did not notice it until you just stated it.

 

[DodgeViper01]

i think DCX is letting the dust settle and the old inventory go off the shelf before the next new and better product makes a big public bang, we(people in the viper community) already know its coming. deliveries will begin in feb '07 of gen 3.5, and that's a fact!

Agreed. No one in their right mind would launch a new product with most of the previous stock still available. Just not a good idea.

 

[Alexarz]

Well now lets see. We have a newly registered member named Alex, who just arrived on the scene 9/23. Within a few posts, he's already making wise ass comments to people who have been around MUCH longer, with MUCH more to offer.

Does this new member remind us of a certain ****** recently banned for the third time?

Could 56LesPaul/Snakesonaplane/LongIslandAsshat have once again slipped into our midst with yet another IP address? The style is familar. Anyone want to bet?

Yeah, I'll take your bet. How about $1000? Have someone from management check my ip address and see if I am the fool that you are referring to.

To set the facts straight, I believe that it is perfectly fine that WANTED prefers the Gen 2's appearance. Lots of people have the same opinion. However, the arrogant method by which he stated (and never presented it as opinion) that the Gen 3 is not the best looking Viper, was offensive to me. As far as his losses to RANGER go, he not only lost, but wrote a post, glorifying the Z06. Obviously the Z06 is an excellent sports car but it also falls quite a bit short of the Viper in many aspects. Here are a few; looks, performance potential, build quality, paint quality, rarity, etc.

I agree with WANTED that it is a good time to buy a Viper, and the reason for this is because the Z06 exists. The Z06 has made the Viper less desirable to the majority of buyers of these cars and has contributed to the lower prices on the Vipers.

 

[PDCjonny]

Have someone from management check my ip address and see if I am the fool that you are referring to.

You can rest assured that's being done...
In case you missed it, Wanted put IMHO on the post subject header, and in CAPS.

 

[viperbilliam]

I just can't understand why the new Vipers are selling so slowly. Yes, I have read a lot of opinions, especially from the owners of Gen IIs and older, but I have driven a lot of great cars and have been around the Vipers long enough. I just don't get it. Right now, I wish I had the financial means, any way or how, to get another SRT10 Viper - an 2006 Slate convertible with the silver stripes and the special H rims. I saw it on the local dealer's floor and instant love. These Vipers aren't perfect but for lasting eye candy and performance they can't be beat. They are the ultimate hot rod in my mind. Vettes? I had a few and still like them but I'd rather another Viper. Right now I need another vehicle that's a little more practical so I may have to settle for an SRT 300. It's probably poor marketing by DC and not enought of us driving the Vipers around enough. I guess in the older days they didn't have to with the lack of competition but those days are long gone. I do think if the gen IIIs were more like the gen IIs, they would sell even less. New Vipers look like Vettes? Don't bet on it, especially coming from most females with their lack of perception regarding vehicles. I think they do OK in the color department!

 

[Alexarz]

Have someone from management check my ip address and see if I am the fool that you are referring to.

You can rest assured that's being done...
In case you missed it, Wanted put IMHO on the post subject header, and in CAPS.

"IMO" on the top of his post referred to the major focus of his post, which was concerning the fact that it is beneficial in some ways that the new Viper was not introduced at VOI. It did not have anything at all to do with his opinion that Gen 3 Vipers are "not the best looking Vipers". He should not cop out on what he said and he is entitled to his opinion. However, don't try to spin it into something it was not. Some people like the Gen 2's appearance and others prefer the Gen 3. So, when should I be expecting the $1000?

 

[Viperfreak2]

The SMART thing to do would be to announce (here on this site) that, due to timing, 'something' was coming but that NO ANNOUNCEMENT would be made at the event and that all DC employees and representatives would be tarred and feathered if the winked nodded or nudged anything.

Marketing genius' they are not.

 

[DodgeViper01]

The SMART thing to do would be to announce (here on this site) that, due to timing, 'something' was coming but that NO ANNOUNCEMENT would be made at the event and that all DC employees and representatives would be tarred and feathered if the winked nodded or nudged anything.

Marketing genius' they are not.

But if they did that people would still be waiting to see the new product and not buy the present product wouldn't they?

 

[Alexarz]

How about this? Chrysler does a recall on the 2006 Viper and installs Striker heads, forged pistons and a higher hp cam on all 2006 Vipers. New ones get modified by the dealers before they are even sold. This would put the Viper well ahead of the Z06 in performance and restore pride among Viper freaks. They would get most of their money back because they wouldn't have to sell them at 12 under msrp.

 

[Lee00blacksilverGTS]

How about this? Chrysler does a recall on the 2006 Viper and installs Striker heads, forged pistons and a higher hp cam on all 2006 Vipers. New ones get modified by the dealers before they are even sold. This would put the Viper well ahead of the Z06 in performance and restore pride among Viper freaks. They would get most of their money back because they wouldn't have to sell them at 12 under msrp.

And put them through new emissions testing because they would be a new motor, costing DC several gazillion dollars. Bad idea. And the parts to make them faster are already out there. Several of our Viper friendly dealers like Woodhouse are delivering brand new cars with superchargers already installed. We have two members here that just took delivery. Jon (2002-gts-acr) and Bob Pantex.

 

[Vipermann]

In case you missed it, Wanted put IMHO on the post subject header, and in CAPS.

Ahh yeah ... but ...

Wanted has SOLD two SRTs, and then announces that now is the best time for the rest of us to sell our SRTs also, and that the SRT is somehow less desirable ... so IMHO doesn't quite cut it ... especially in the SRT forum.

... I don't go the the Gen 1 & 2 forum and trash earlier Vipers just because I prefer the Gen 3 ... (that's how the original post comes across to me) ... let's all keep it positive, and leave the trash-talking to the frustrated, exclusivity-challenged car guys (read F-body quality interiors under plastic exteriors).

Vipers, or most any car for that matter, are not really investments that can really be optimized with clever buy/sell timing. They are almost always 'upside-down' expenses to be enjoyed through personal use. Unless you have a Barrett-Jackson collector car, it's pretty silly to put energy into thinking otherwise -- IMHO.

 

[SRT10]

.... my wifey who really has no opinion either way, saw a blue 06 coupe on the road and simply stated to me "looks like a Vette"...from the mouth of babes...Enthusiasts/Owners have their perspectives which are great, but I thought the unsolicited comment from the MRS was enlightening.

I'm sure "wifey" doesn't know that the SRT Viper was introduced a few years before the C6 Vette. It was Chevy who changed the appearance of the Vette to look more like a Viper. Imitation is the best form of flattery..

 

[Scott_in_FL]

WANTED is an upstanding guy, so I don't think anyone here is questioning his motive. If the post came across wrong to some, I am certain that was not the intent.

That said, I have mixed feelings about whether the "non-announcement" is good or bad. It is likely they refrained from any news releases because they want to move '05 and '06 leftovers (which are likely verts because coupes are just about gone) before then. If that is the case, they must have something they believe will further depress the market (which is bad). Or, they don't have anything at all - which is starting to appear like a reasonable theory (which is good - if you already have one).

Nobody really knows, and if anybody claims they do, they are talking out of their a## (how many claimed "insiders" were so certain VOI9 was going to be a groundbreaking event).

 

[viper585]

That said, I have mixed feelings about whether the "non-announcement" is good or bad. It is likely they refrained from any news releases because they want to move '05 and '06 leftovers (which are likely verts because coupes are just about gone) before then. If that is the case, they must have something they believe will further depress the market (which is bad). Or, they don't have anything at all - which is starting to appear like a reasonable theory (which is good - if you already have one).

Nobody really knows, and if anybody claims they do, they are talking out of their a## (how many claimed "insiders" were so certain VOI9 was going to be a groundbreaking event).

Scott..keep in mind I was not one who said ANYTHING would be shown or announced at VOI9. In fact..I was told the opposite. The car hasn't been finished.. EPA certified...etc. It can't be talked about specifically or even generally. But there is an '08 Viper...done deal. But the price will be "up there' as well. But...I may be taling out of my a##. We shall soon see.

 

[George Murray]

I agree that the Gen III doesn't look as good as the earlier cars. But: the Gen III is simply a better car. A truly wonderful car to drive. Especially those brakes. Love those brakes...

The extra power's pretty nice, too. And the true convertible is far easier to deal with than the RT/10 folding top.