Looking To Buy Used ACR's

[BJ MOTORS]

PM please if you have a ACR new or used that you are interested in selling. Or e-mail me at [email protected] or call me 1-800-270-1608 ext.2

Thanks,

Bernie

 

[kcobean]

I assume you mean of the SRT-10 variant.

 

[BJ MOTORS]

Sorry Kelly I should have clarified that post, looking for 2008/2009 ACR's new or used.

 

[doctorbob]

Why do you want used ACRs.....I do not mean this as a dumb question but there are probably less that 175-200 total cars out there so the market you are looking at is extremely small.

 

[VicTxV10]

Why do you want used ACRs.....I do not mean this as a dumb question but there are probably less that 175-200 total cars out there so the market you are looking at is extremely small.

Could be the reason he is looking...making the market even smaller for a car that may see it's last year in 09.

 

[BJ MOTORS]

Dr.Bob no question is dumb, I am looking for new and used. I have customers who are looking for cars, and if someone bought an 08 or 09 and is looking to sell I am looking to buy.

 

[08ACRVTEN00GTS]

I think the ACR's are or will hold values - what do you think?

 

[2002_Viper_GTS_ACR]

I think the ACR's are or will hold values - what do you think?

I dont. Reason being, the 'parts' that make them special are readily available for others to duplicate. If the engines had been unique, THAT would have made them priceless.

These, much like the gen 2 ACRs will eventually be only a 'perk' if its an ACR in 3-5 years. Then in 15 years they will be significantly more valuable.

But no, my bet is that these are going to get soft much like the 08s did over the next year or two and in 3-5 years be marginally higher in resale. But then you'll start to see 7-10 years later they'll be more valuable then there non acr counterparts after that.

Jon

 

[Lee00blacksilverGTS]

I disagree. There is a lot more that makes a Gen 4 ACR unique than a Gen 2. A gen 2 had some optional shock absorbers, different wheels and harnesses.
A Gen 4 has a fully adjustable suspension, full on race brakes, lightweight wheels, and Aero that provides more downforce than any other production auto.
Add in the Ring record and you have a pretty unusual contender. A Gen 2 ACR did not raise the bar that substantially over a standard GTS.
And so far ACR prices are holding up. Law of supply and demand. There are very few for sale, you might find one or two on Auto Trader or Ebay.
As to the Aero pieces being duplicated, so far I have not heard of it. And even if they are the car in question will still just be a "clone". Real ACR's should still command the bucks as long as Dodge does not subject them to the same discounts as standard Vipers.
The real Aero pieces will probably be available from Mopar at some point but I'm betting the price for the whole Aero kit will push 20k IF we're lucky. Check the retail list prices right now on those parts and you will faint.
And building a complete clone with suspension, brakes, aero and wheels is gonna cost a LOT more than buying a real one, even if someone cheaply duplicates the aero parts so you're really not going to see many cloned.
There probably are only 100 or so ACR's out there right now so if 09 production of all Vipers will be limited to less than normal it stands to reason they will be quite rare, the single fact that Bernie is looking for some should tell us how few there really are. Rarity = increased long term value in the car world, always has, and as most of them will be tracked that will also increase the rarity due to attrition.

 

[Newport Viper]

I dont. If the engines had been unique, THAT would have made them priceless.
Jon

I agree here. That would make a huge difference down the road....

 

[99 R/T 10]

I disagree. There is a lot more that makes a Gen 4 ACR unique than a Gen 2. A gen 2 had some optional shock absorbers, different wheels and harnesses.
A Gen 4 has a fully adjustable suspension, full on race brakes, lightweight wheels, and Aero that provides more downforce than any other production auto.
Add in the Ring record and you have a pretty unusual contender. A Gen 2 ACR did not raise the bar that substantially over a standard GTS.
And so far ACR prices are holding up. Law of supply and demand. There are very few for sale, you might find one or two on Auto Trader or Ebay.
As to the Aero pieces being duplicated, so far I have not heard of it. And even if they are the car in question will still just be a "clone". Real ACR's should still command the bucks as long as Dodge does not subject them to the same discounts as standard Vipers.
The real Aero pieces will probably be available from Mopar at some point but I'm betting the price for the whole Aero kit will push 20k IF we're lucky. Check the retail list prices right now on those parts and you will faint.
And building a complete clone with suspension, brakes, aero and wheels is gonna cost a LOT more than buying a real one, even if someone cheaply duplicates the aero parts so you're really not going to see many cloned.
There probably are only 100 or so ACR's out there right now so if 09 production of all Vipers will be limited to less than normal it stands to reason they will be quite rare, the single fact that Bernie is looking for some should tell us how few there really are. Rarity = increased long term value in the car world, always has, and as most of them will be tracked that will also increase the rarity due to attrition.

I'm with Lee on this one. ACR's will hold value better than the normal 08/09s. There are far less numbers built and will become as desired as the 1998 GTS/Rs. The fact they still hold the Nurenburger ring record is a nice touch and with more practice time/effort probably would have put it out of reach for a very long time.

 

[GR8_ASP]

I disagree. There is a lot more that makes a Gen 4 ACR unique than a Gen 2. A gen 2 had some optional shock absorbers, different wheels and harnesses.
A Gen 4 has a fully adjustable suspension, full on race brakes, lightweight wheels, and Aero that provides more downforce than any other production auto.
Add in the Ring record and you have a pretty unusual contender. A Gen 2 ACR did not raise the bar that substantially over a standard GTS.
And so far ACR prices are holding up. Law of supply and demand. There are very few for sale, you might find one or two on Auto Trader or Ebay.
As to the Aero pieces being duplicated, so far I have not heard of it. And even if they are the car in question will still just be a "clone". Real ACR's should still command the bucks as long as Dodge does not subject them to the same discounts as standard Vipers.
The real Aero pieces will probably be available from Mopar at some point but I'm betting the price for the whole Aero kit will push 20k IF we're lucky. Check the retail list prices right now on those parts and you will faint.
And building a complete clone with suspension, brakes, aero and wheels is gonna cost a LOT more than buying a real one, even if someone cheaply duplicates the aero parts so you're really not going to see many cloned.
There probably are only 100 or so ACR's out there right now so if 09 production of all Vipers will be limited to less than normal it stands to reason they will be quite rare, the single fact that Bernie is looking for some should tell us how few there really are. Rarity = increased long term value in the car world, always has, and as most of them will be tracked that will also increase the rarity due to attrition.

So what are "full on race brakes?" I thought they only added the Stop Tech 2 pc rotors and the rest of the brake system was identical.

As for the rest it is only opinion/conjecture. No idea what the long term future holds in terms of collectability and value. You may find a Prius being more collectible in 30 years Rarity by itself has not been a good indicator of collectability. Rare and desired has been. And it is the desire in the future that matters, not todays.

 

[CarDude]

So what are "full on race brakes?" I thought they only added the Stop Tech 2 pc rotors and the rest of the brake system was identical.

As for the rest it is only opinion/conjecture. No idea what the long term future holds in terms of collectability and value. You may find a Prius being more collectible in 30 years Rarity by itself has not been a good indicator of collectability. Rare and desired has been. And it is the desire in the future that matters, not todays.

Well the desire is still there...lets take mine out and see how the public reacts, many people know what they are looking at (even though there are so few of them). I had a 2001 ACR, and you would really have to know what to look for in that year to see the difference between the ACR and the GTS. How much more is the GTS ACR fetching over its counterpart right now? The SRT ACR is fetching 20K+ right now.

 

[08ACRVTEN00GTS]

Good point Dude! When I was at Roanoke getting the fluids changed in my GTS I had no idea I would buy a ACR but after looking at them for a couple hours I just had to have one. I think there is a big difference from the GTS, the ACR just looks like a beast I don't care what color it is. I might be mistaken but I think the older ACR's are bringing a little bit more money for instance the 2002 final edition (red - white stripes) the rarity and color matters.

 

[Viperless]

I thought they only added the Stop Tech 2 pc rotors and the rest of the brake system was identical.

You thought correctly.

They're also not exclusive to the ACR.

 

[JeffTheViperMan]

Can I just toss this out here?

The car has nothing to do with value. It's what the owner will sell it for. If someone has an 09 ACR and he's about to lose his house, he'll sell the ACR for pennies on the dollar to keep the house. And seeing how everyone today is looking for a DEAL, it'll sell once the price gets low enough.

Dealers selling at invoice or less isn't helping either.

Can't say I mind all that much - I was a deal taker back in November. And if I have to sell my Viper for whatever reason, I'm pretty confident I can get at least what I paid for it because of how low the price was that I got!

I just hope that day never comes.

 

[1BADGTS]

Can I just toss this out here?

The car has nothing to do with value. It's what the owner will sell it for. If someone has an 09 ACR and he's about to lose his house, he'll sell the ACR for pennies on the dollar to keep the house. And seeing how everyone today is looking for a DEAL, it'll sell once the price gets low enough.

Dealers selling at invoice or less isn't helping either.

Can't say I mind all that much - I was a deal taker back in November. And if I have to sell my Viper for whatever reason, I'm pretty confident I can get at least what I paid for it because of how low the price was that I got!

I just hope that day never comes.

Your 1000% correct.Today in this economy people who have EQUITY in a LUXURY item like an EXOTIC car that NEED the money MUST sell to keep afloat.Once a dealer moves a new ACR at invoice or into the holdback the word spreads like wildfire and EVERYONE who is now looking EXPECTS the same deal.

 

[snakeplissken]

I disagree. There is a lot more that makes a Gen 4 ACR unique than a Gen 2. A gen 2 had some optional shock absorbers, different wheels and harnesses.
A Gen 4 has a fully adjustable suspension, full on race brakes, lightweight wheels, and Aero that provides more downforce than any other production auto.
Add in the Ring record and you have a pretty unusual contender. A Gen 2 ACR did not raise the bar that substantially over a standard GTS.
And so far ACR prices are holding up. Law of supply and demand. There are very few for sale, you might find one or two on Auto Trader or Ebay.
As to the Aero pieces being duplicated, so far I have not heard of it. And even if they are the car in question will still just be a "clone". Real ACR's should still command the bucks as long as Dodge does not subject them to the same discounts as standard Vipers.
The real Aero pieces will probably be available from Mopar at some point but I'm betting the price for the whole Aero kit will push 20k IF we're lucky. Check the retail list prices right now on those parts and you will faint.
And building a complete clone with suspension, brakes, aero and wheels is gonna cost a LOT more than buying a real one, even if someone cheaply duplicates the aero parts so you're really not going to see many cloned.
There probably are only 100 or so ACR's out there right now so if 09 production of all Vipers will be limited to less than normal it stands to reason they will be quite rare, the single fact that Bernie is looking for some should tell us how few there really are. Rarity = increased long term value in the car world, always has, and as most of them will be tracked that will also increase the rarity due to attrition.

I agree. The ACR is the baddest production Viper of all time.

 

[99 R/T 10]

Just did a quick scan on ebay, I couldn't find a single ACR less than $100K. 2/3 weeks ago the were several in the low 90's. Prices seems to be firming up. ACR is the Shiznet

 

[GR8_ASP]

Checking prices now means nothing relative to the prices 20 or 30 years in the future. Many of the highest value cars of the 60's and 70's had terrible values in the early 70's. Dealers couldn't give them away. Again, if you are looking for future collectible car values you need to forecast the future demand and availability. If there is no fuel available the equation may be far different than today. Plus the potential for future very low mileage cars is much higher than of old. Many of these cars are purchased and parked.

 

[ACR steve]

"I agree. The ACR is the baddest production Viper of all time"


Might I be so bold as to say "the baddest production Car of all time"
remember we hold the Ring title