MOTON canister hose question.

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Hi all,

After spending literally a couple of hours looking at the archives (there is a lot on this subject), I wasn't able to get a clear answer on the following questions.

With the exception of having to recharge the canister, am I truly able to remove the banjo bolt on the canister in order to more neatly snake the hose in my engine compartment? I have a gen3 car.
I looking at the pics of some Gen 4 installs and it appears as though the hose was run through the small opening in the inner fender well next to the engine cross brace and then reconnected to the canister.

On the drivers side of the engine compartment near the cross brace is the purge valve. For those mounting the canisters to the front of the cross brace, what if anything did you do to reduce the interference between the canister and the valve?

The last question concerns how the hoses are actually attached to the canister. The pics of the gen 4 cars here on the forum show the hoses attached via seals and a spring "C" clip. My Motons have the conventional banjo fitting with the banjo bolt. Is this something new?

I sent an email to Lex Carson from MOTON USA but he replied that he was out of the office until the first part of next week and I wanted to something on the car this weekend.

thanks in advance
Steve A.
 
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Steve,

The hose can be carefully disconnected, but Lex will advise you not to because you can introduce air into the lines. There is a "bleed tool" made for servicing the canisters, but not really an end user thing.

They will work with air, but you will loose effective rebound and compression dampening and or aerate the oil sooner.
 
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Mark,

I understand about air in the lines vs. the nitrogen that they were originally serviced with. I bought the power tank set up from Nader so I have lots of nitrogen.... Here is the pic of a gen4 setup. Note where the hoses go.

Explain to me though what was done in the gen 4 install pics on the forum here how the hoses were run.
 

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The hoses are run up under the inner fender liners and through the opening by the engine bay brace. I rounded out the opening in the carbon so the hose is protected.

It is not that there is air in the canister but when the hose is disconnected the oil escapes a little and when you re install it there is a little air pocket in the oil line and shock. This is what will affect the shocks performance because the air compresses and the oil would not.
 

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The crossmember is very easy to remove and may help when snaking the cannisters through the engine bay. I did not disconnect the hoses when I installed mine.

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The canister to shock hose contains oil, not nitrogen, and it is pressurized by the N2. Since you have a recharge kit, I would recommend de-pressurizing the cans first. Next, loosen the banjo bolts only enough to reclock the hoses, mount the canisters, then tighten the banjo bolts and re-pressurize.
 

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