no, No, NO.... you can't do this to your rear brakes!!!!

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no, No, NO.... you can\'t do this to your rear brakes!!!!

I just got back a set of cores to rebuild into 40mm rear calipers. They are unusable because at one point someone tightened or loosened the bolt holding the parking brake lever and didn't hold onto the lever itself. Everyone needs to know that there is no "stop" to support the internal pieces when you do this. It is particularly easy to do on the passenger side, since to unscrew the bolt (counterclockwise) you are working against only the parking brake cam plates. And guess what - they break!
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Yes, it's bad for me, but it's also dangerous for you. The hardened steel shatters and while the picture shows the major piece, there are a few small slivers missing.

Normally when you pull on the parking brake the cable pulls on the external lever arm. Attached to the lever arm is a mating plate like this broken one, also with three teardrop shaped holes, but the teardrops are pointed in the opposite direction. Ball bearings are in the deep end of the teardrop shaped holes, keeping the two plates slightly separated. When the parking lever arm rotates the plate, the balls roll from the deep end to the shallower pointy end of their hole, spreading the two plates apart. The plate rotated by the brake lever arm can't move because it's up against the inside of the caliper body (and it rides on the needle bearing) the other plate must move and pushes the piston to engage the parking brake mechanically (not hydraulically.)
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When you loosen or tighten the bolt holding the parking brake lever on, you are placing more force on these plates than they can handle.

The other, less dramatic failure is if the snap ring holding the plates in their cavity inside the caliper pulls through (the one on the left). Although it's also an irreplaceable part, it is more safe because it doesn't leave broken bits loose inside the caliper.
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You do not need to remove the lever arm anyway. With the parking brake disengaged, you can take pliers, grab the ball at the end of the parking brake cable and there is enough slack to guide the cable out of the slot in the end of the lever arm. Same for replacing it - pull on the cable and there will be enough slack to re-engage the cable in the lever arm.

If the calipers are off the car, put the tip of the lever arm in a vise and unscrew the bolt. Somehow, you must hold on to the arm, do not rely on the internal parts of the caliper.

Please, please don't remove the brake arms. If you have any questions, find me and ask me.
 
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Re: no, No, NO.... you can\'t do this to your rear brakes!!!!

In my panic I forgot to mention that the parking brake and service brake features were still working. The owner could have experienced the damage a long time earlier and driven (and parked) with little or no signs.

In the case of the broken cam plate, I would guess that after an unlucky bounce the broken piece eventually could have ended up in the wrong place and caused some mechanical binding of the brake.

The pulled through snap ring was a different pair and while they would still allow the the hydraulic brake action to function, the parking brake feature on that caliper did not work.
 

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Re: no, No, NO.... you can\'t do this to your rear brakes!!!!

Tom, please tell me that set was not from my car???
 

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Re: no, No, NO.... you can\'t do this to your rear brakes!!!!

I bet that somewhere, somebody's "ears are burning"!

Great info!
 

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Re: no, No, NO.... you can\'t do this to your rear brakes!!!!

Or was it my set?? I don't believe it was, but damage from previous owner?
 

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Anyone have the pics to what Tom was talking about in this thread? I just bought a set of used 40mm calipers and do not want to do whatever Tom was talking about
 

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So I should save the rears I just removed from my '01 that worked fine for 13K miles as someone may have a use for them? Are they a one-off Viper application?
 

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Thank you sir! Is there a way to test the caliper for proper operation prior to installation? I bought them with only 200 miles on them (supposedly), but still want to make sure they ok without disassembling them.
If you mount the calliper in a vice or on the car, wind in the piston, either using a pair of long nosed pliers or the correct brake winding tool, then move the hand brake lever several times and you should notice the piston turning outward. If that happens there working fine :)
 

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If you don't want to save them, I'll take them off your hands. Don't need them now but you never know.

So I should save the rears I just removed from my '01 that worked fine for 13K miles as someone may have a use for them?
 
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