Stupid Brake Question?

[Snake Bitten]

OK...with my nuclear/bio hazard flame suit on...
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[monnieh]

Are you asking if you buy new front brakes you can put your front brakes on your rear wheels?

If your not that is what I want to know! he he

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

I'm no expert but there are volumes of info on this.

From what I gather, the attempt at putting fronts on the rears is possible but more trouble than it's worth. A more affordable option is to remove the O-ring or spring in the master cylinder.

I went with Stoptech. Very simple installation and with a race pad they do a great job.

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

Peace of mind Gerald. Stoptech doesn't require any messing with PV or MC and they work.

Like I said, there is already a lot of info on this if you want to take the time to find it. I don't recall exactly what was said but it was enough for me to settle on getting a kit - be it Stoptech, Dilusi, Porsche. I've heard great things about the Porsche brakes lasting and stopping. The downside seemed to be expense and difficulty of installation.

 

[RockyTop]

Been there, done that. By putting the stock front calipers on the rear the rearward bias just cannot be overcome without using appreciably larger front brakes (6 pisotn etc.) Many Viper Days racers have done it, but you need (i) brackets to accommodate the front caliper, (ii) 18" wheel on front (which is fine, but adds cost)and, if you don't go to an 18" rear, a .5in. spacer and longer studs on the rear. The Viper knurl size on the studs isn't common so it may require hogging out the rear knuckle to accomodate, (iii) a bigger master cylinder to maintain the high hard pedal you'd want because you need to move more fluid, (iv) the larger front brakes. I have the machined knuckles and brackets to do this if you want to try it. I gave up, but it's still may be cheaper then StopTech.

The reality is you need to do the math to see if this can be done given your front calipers. E-mail me if still interested at [email protected].

 

[Scorch]

My best guess is that if you put front brakes on the rear of your Viper they would lock up prematurely. The front brakes are designed to provide 85% of the braking power on a Viper (due to obvious weight distribution issues). Putting that strong a brake on the rear could be disastrous.

 

[Snake Bitten]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Scorch:
The front brakes are designed to provide 85% of the braking power on a Viper (due to obvious weight distribution issues). Putting that strong a brake on the rear could be disastrous.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

1. Don't the front brakes get about 85% of the brake fluid pressure and won't they still, even if I have the same size components on the rear?

2. By marginally increasing the actual "size" of the rear brakes but not increasing the fluid pressure, won't this only make the rear braking "marginally" improved over stock?

3. So lets say that I put a set of fronts on my rear, and even with the stock fluid pressures, the rears are now too agressive, couldn't I get a $30 aftermarket proportioning valve and adjust the pressures so the balance is back to normal?

This is my "theory"...and I am actually trying to weasle out of a $4000 brake upgrade...still no one has actually called "retard" yet...hhmmmm...interesting...