Negative Joe says,
I think that's quite a bit of money to pay for those mods.
How do you know what's inside the engine? Do they have a dyno sheet? Will they dyno it for you while you watch?
I agree with the others who spot items on the list that are exaggerated in price. What else is he exaggerating?
The big displacement, heads and cam and bullet proof components are nice but you could probably get more power for quite a bit less money.
I don't think it's worth nearly $65k.
What is it worth? I don't know but a buyer would have to want all that stuff before it would be worth anything. Just because the owner spent lots of money doesn't mean the mods are worth much to anyone else.
It kind of reminds me of someone spending lots of money on additions and remodeling on a small house in a not so good neighborhood. The houses in that neighborhood are only worth so much.
Guys, Thanks for all the input. I found out a little more information. Please take this into consideration and let me know what you think about the price.
The car was a daily driver from 1997 to 2002 when the owner decided to use it a a marketing tool for his high performance business. He and his corporation decided to try to make the car into a display car for the SEMA and PRI shows in 2002-2003.
To do this, they started in 2002 and took the car apart from the frame (or took as much of the body off as they could.) With the body parts off, they cleaned the frame and put new suspension, front and rear, new brakes, wheels and tires, new (ultrics SP?) half shafts. They replaced fenders, door sills, hood, facia, headlights, taillights, and all the stuff that had been nicked or worn over the 30,000 miles the car had on it. They pulled the engine and sent it to be built.
With all the new body parts, the car was shipped to Fat Alberts, AZ, for new paint. I have not talked to Fat Alberts yet, but I imagine between the new body panels and a good paint job, you could spend $20k. What do you think?
For the engine, they went to Bill Wright, AZ. Bill builds motors for top fuel cars and boats and offshore boats. I spoke with Bill about the motor and as the ad states the guy used really good parts in the engine, Velasco crank, Oliver rods, etc. I know a lot about engines and all the parts they used are first quality. I also asked about the "Top Secret" cam grind. Actually, they told me it was a custom Crower grind with 235 degrees duration at .050 and .550 lift. This is a pretty mild cam but they did that to make the car streetable...that is the AC works fine, the power brakes work... you can easily drive this on the street. I asked the folks at Bill Millers how much was spent on the motor and he said "about $37,000, not including the heads, the owner supplied the CNC GTS-R heads." So while the owners prices on the other stuff might be inflated, the price on the motor was not.
For the interior, they put in some high dollar sound system-- I'm not really into those things but I understand at the SEMA and PRI shows they wanted to impress. They also added a 5-point cage and all new carpet, seats, and headliner. They also had a company which does acoustic insulation work add sound blocking material throughout the car where ever possible. Again, while I'm not into Boom Boom stereos, I do appreciate a quiet ride. The owner tells me that with the windows up, the car is very quiet-- I'll have to see about that.
The owner did dyno the car at 618RWTQ and 585RWHP. He has the dyno sheets. He also has a video (he is going to email to me) of him at the strip with a run of 10.44 at 135mph. Do any of you know if the RWHP numbers and the drag strip numbers seem to correlate? I don't know how much power it takes to run 10.44?
All this work on the car has been done within 18 months. Since the "frame off", the car only as about 1200 miles. Any more thought about the price?
What would it cost to have a [******] 700R put on a stock 97 GTS?
Any comments would be appreciated.
