Why does the SRT 10 gets no love around the RT 10/GTS crowd.

[santo]

I must say that I'm a Viper newbie. I want to qualify this post by saying that I don't own any model of Viper and the last time I saw a Viper in person was an RT 10 back about 8-10 years ago. I have never seen an SRT 10 in person.

I think I know why the Gen I/II crowd doesn't particularly care for the styling. In a photograph, it looks too square. I was watching some sort of rally on the Speed channel and out pops up an SRT 10 and I was captivated. No photograph has ever done it any justice and I saw it on TV for about 10 seconds.

You cannot see the curves at all in a picture and I'm sure that TV doesn't do it any justice either but it helps. The "gills" have been squared off which is where the Viper trademark lies (in my opinion). I imagine the front of the car is slimmer then the back but you can't see that in pictures. The curves are missing and it doesn't look like a low and wide car because the trademark Dodge crosshair grill is too tall. I think the new coupe helps accentuate those curves a little better then the convertible but I'm not a Coupe/GTS type guy. I think the Viper looks very "business like" in the back with a classic exotic car look and the front looks very sporty but it's those sides that "makes" the car. The gills brings it over the top. Those square gills aren't helping much and if they disappeared, so too would the Viper trademark. I'm sure the gills look much better in person and this is where the misunderstanding lies.

I can tell you that that SRT 10 looked awesome in that short TV clip and if disposable income was there this minute, I'd be paying Daveny a visit right now! You guys have a sweet ride and it deserves much respect. An SRT 10 convertible would be my first choice. I will have to settle for an RT 10, I think, because I don't have the funds to pull it off but I will know what I really wanted. I just can't wait much longer to join you guys

Anyway, this is just an opinion from a non Viper owner (yet).
Santo

 

[AG98RT10]

Have to tell you, I'm one RT owner who loves the SRT10, as well. One day, I'll probably have one...

 

[M. ROD]

I have never seen an SRT 10 in person.

Remember these words: You Will Be Blown Away

 

[viperdrummer]

I have both a GTS and SRT and love both. Not sure I could pick one over the other.

 

[Carleton]

I to own a RT and really like the STR10. Thinking about moving to one.


Carleton

 

[snakebitdave]

"Why does the SRT 10 gets no love around the RT 10/GTS crowd." This is not entirely true as many love both. And many will choose the SRT10 over the RT10 or GTS when seen side by side. Interestingly it has been my experience that more women pick the SRT10 as their favorite than men. Vipers of each generation are like children; each different but we love them all.

 

[Warfang]

I love both... just the gts more than the srt, but not by much. As soon as I can justify (cash) a second Viper, I'm getting an srt. Would NEVER sell my gts, but the srt will be sold as soon as the next toy comes around.

 

[98MODMTR]

denial.

 

[Jeff Lemke]

Only because I do not have the extra $$$ right now. If I did.....SRT-10.

 

[SweetRed04]

denial.

I agree.

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

Why does the SRT 10 gets no love around the RT 10/GTS crowd.

Because there's too many posers in both camps.

 

[Gerald]

Chuck, it's 5:00 am, what are you doing up? GET SOME SLEEP!

 

[AG98RT10]

More grist for the mill:

The RT is beginning to look just a tad dated, compared with the SRT-10 - not enough to offset its advantages in the curves department, but there are some views of the SRT I like better. Also, for someone (like me) who MUST be able to enjoy open-air motoring, the removable top on the RT is a major PITA!
I'd love to have the SRT-10 with its stowaway top, better brakes, etc...
Unfortunately, can't justify the expense now, plus I'd probably have to spend a bunch (3.55's, short-throw, exhaust) just to equal my RT driving experience.

 

[V10SpeedLuvr]

I didnt like the SRT until I saw 1 in person. Most photos just dont do them justice. After driving beside one on interstate, I can confirm, they are all VIPER

 

[vipah]

It gets no love because it gets a whooping from a stock Vette of the same generation.

Bring back the king of the hill, then you'll see love.

 

[GR8_ASP]

Okay, what Corvette was faster, quicker or whatever in 2003? 2004? 2005?

Oh I see, because in 2006 Corvette came to the party that disavows the previous years where the SRT was the undisputed (by most) King of the Hill.

So that cannot be the reason as the lack of "love" was present from the beginning of the SRT. And Vipah, you have been one of the most prominent members of the "Bash the SRT" crowd.

 

[vipah]

Okay, what Corvette was faster, quicker or whatever in 2003? 2004? 2005?

Oh I see, because in 2006 Corvette came to the party that disavows the previous years where the SRT was the undisputed (by most) King of the Hill.

So that cannot be the reason as the lack of "love" was present from the beginning of the SRT. And Vipah, you have been one of the most prominent members of the "Bash the SRT" crowd.

I said same generation, so yes, the '04 etc. gets no credit for being the king of the hill.

You guys are very sensitive. I guess you are just really in touch with your feminine side. Who is bashing? Just pointing out the facts. Just because you are in denial isn't my problem.

It started when many genI/II guys said they didn't like the styling of the SRT. You guys got all PO'd like a bunch of cry babies. But that is subjective, so who really cares. Performance is a different story, and the numbers speak for themselves, unfortunately.

It still looks like DC is sleeping at the wheel. Sure they talk a good game, but what are they doing? The propoganda about the Z06 being maxed also looks a bit foolish now as well.

My advice: DC step up the game, and SRT owners stop crying because someone thinks your baby is ugly. Remember how much bashing the GenI/II got for poor brakes. I don't think you see a lot of those owners crying about people pointing out facts.

 

[GR8_ASP]

Vipah, you must not have any common sense. In 2003 WHAT VETTE WAS KING OF THE HILL? Not now, back in 2003. So was the 2003 SRT-10 King of the Hill? Yes or no? What happens 3 years later does not change history.

Braking performance is a fact. Appearance is in the eye of the beholder and is subjective. It is not a fact no matter how strongly you feel.

BTW I do not see too many SRT owners going to the Gen I/II forum and bashing the Gen I/II brakes. We are not so small as to need to bash someone else's car to make us feel better about our own (unlike people like you).

 

[vipah]

Vipah, you must not have any common sense. In 2003 WHAT VETTE WAS KING OF THE HILL? Not now, back in 2003. So was the 2003 SRT-10 King of the Hill? Yes or no? What happens 3 years later does not change history.

Braking performance is a fact. Appearance is in the eye of the beholder and is subjective. It is not a fact no matter how strongly you feel.

BTW I do not see too many SRT owners going to the Gen I/II forum and bashing the Gen I/II brakes. We are not so small as to need to bash someone else's car to make us feel better about our own (unlike people like you).

What Gen is the '03/'04???? Oh, Gen III.

Why are you in denial? Does the new Z06 beat the Gen III?????

Who is bashing? Facts are facts, and DC should step it up. Why do you cry and whine like a baby? **** it up.

 

[GR8_ASP]

The C5Z06, the only Z06 around when I purchased my Gen III was NOT faster than the SRT. That is not denial, that is fact. Now if they continued building the SRT-10 for 50 years and if Neons became faster it would not change what it was when new. Now those are facts.

Generations of cars have and will overlap. You can only comparte with respect to another car made at the same time. And in 2003 (February if you want to be more specific) the C6, let alone the Z06 version of it, was only on the drawing board or in the minds of the designers. It WAS NOT FOR SALE. It was not a comparison point, unless of course the next generation Viper should be compared to this years Z06. The Z06 will probably still be on the market when that occurs. So will that trump all previous years as well?

 

[vipah]

The C5Z06, the only Z06 around when I purchased my Gen III was NOT faster than the SRT. That is not denial, that is fact. Now if they continued building the SRT-10 for 50 years and if Neons became faster it would not change what it was when new. Now those are facts.

Generations of cars have and will overlap. You can only comparte with respect to another car made at the same time. And in 2003 (February if you want to be more specific) the C6, let alone the Z06 version of it, was only on the drawing board or in the minds of the designers. It WAS NOT FOR SALE. It was not a comparison point, unless of course the next generation Viper should be compared to this years Z06. The Z06 will probably still be on the market when that occurs. So will that trump all previous years as well?

Like I said, you are in denial.

 

[Lee00blacksilverGTS]

It's really a misconception that there are a bunch of Gen 3 bashers here. Most of us like all generations and universally I think the two prior generations realize the gen 3 is a far superior performer in all regards. And most of us have plans to buy a GEN 3, lot's of us have been waiting for a coupe. With the exception of a few Corvette trolls who can be seen as complete newbs by their registration date and number of posts, there are only four guys who actually own Vipers and have been here for a while who make all the comments. The president of the Nattering Nabobs of Negativity showed up above, he just can't wait to take a shot and indeed starts many threads about this.....Meet SNIPAH, the other three officers of the negativity club are SAFIRE, HIROHAHA, and MOPAR 426. It's only the internet and they have their right to dissent, and as they have said so many times, as did their brother CRAIG201MPH, who was sometimes even funny, they just want to send a message to DC. They think their constant negative interjections will somehow move DC faster to add more horsepower. Those of us who know anything about big companies and how they think know better. If you're a Gen 3 guy and the bashing bothers you, keep watching those names, I may have misspelled a few! LOL! And I may have missed a couple up and comers, it's not a big crowd, but they jump in so constantly they make it look like a bunch of people.

 

[dirk989]

Lee is like a lot of the rest of us. He loves Vipers. I see a lot of cross-generational respect on here. Of course, just like anywhere else there are a handful of idiots.

From time to time these guys get one of us to bite and they go on and on with childish, illogical and nonsensical insults. I made the mistake of attempting to engage in debate with the infamous Craig201mph. Then, apparently not learning my lesson, I've had some 'discussions' with Vipuh. Vipuh makes Craig look like Stephen Hawking.

These trolls are just trying to get a rise out of someone. Not even these guys could possibly believe they crap they spew. They expect us to believe that the personal insults and lunacy vomited onto this internet site will be considered by the people who run one of the largest companies in the world. They expect us to believe that the people at DC will then ignore their accountants and engineers and change the direction of the company based on these wonderful jewels of wisdom.

Clearly, the real purpose is to stir up an argument.

I still read the posts by these morons just for entertainment value, but it doesn't affect my enjoyment of all things Viper.

Dirk

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

SAFIRE, HIROHAHA, MOPAR 426, CRAIG201MPH, they just want to send a message to DC.

That's the impression I had.

Anyways, if the SRT crowd would get out and do some tracking they would laugh and laugh at the basher's comments.

 

[vipah]

Lee is like a lot of the rest of us. He loves Vipers. I see a lot of cross-generational respect on here. Of course, just like anywhere else there are a handful of idiots.

From time to time these guys get one of us to bite and they go on and on with childish, illogical and nonsensical insults. I made the mistake of attempting to engage in debate with the infamous Craig201mph. Then, apparently not learning my lesson, I've had some 'discussions' with Vipuh. Vipuh makes Craig look like Stephen Hawking.

These trolls are just trying to get a rise out of someone. Not even these guys could possibly believe they crap they spew. They expect us to believe that the personal insults and lunacy vomited onto this internet site will be considered by the people who run one of the largest companies in the world. They expect us to believe that the people at DC will then ignore their accountants and engineers and change the direction of the company based on these wonderful jewels of wisdom.

Clearly, the real purpose is to stir up an argument.

I still read the posts by these morons just for entertainment value, but it doesn't affect my enjoyment of all things Viper.

Dirk

Come on now jirk, you don't really believe yourself, do you? If I make Craig201MPH look like Stephen Hawking then I must make you look like a head of lettuce.

LOL

 

[GTS Bruce]

The performance of Gen 3 is great,superior.Same with fit,refinement and finish.However to the gen 1 and 2 drivers its the ugly girl with all the right moves that you take out in the dark or put a bag on her head.I guess us dumb male owners get turned on more by the looks than the performance. GTS Bruce

 

[Lee00blacksilverGTS]

Ahh...Captain SNIPAHS response....The jirk thing was not bad, given the name changing I introduced. But VEGATABLES?? Is that the best smack you can muster up?? LETTUCE?? Let's see if we can get it back to people instead of vegatables, so weak, and actually I think dirk was wrong about the comparison between Craig and you. Craig was LETTERMAN and you sir are GERALDO.

 

[ulllose]

Well coming from a C5 and now into a srt vert i have never got this much attention in a car. My c5 was laid out and loud but everytime i take my viper out i have people pointing, taking pictures (happened twice in one week) when its park in a lot i come out and there is a crowd around it. I think its great. I have never owned a GenI or II viper but i can say this srt gets plenty of love around people who cares what the genI or II crowds think...lol...

 

[GR8_ASP]

Okay Lee, what are you going to coin for Vipah? Can you one up Capsclown?

 

[Mach10]

What Gen is the '03/'04???? Oh, Gen III.

Why are you in denial? Does the new Z06 beat the Gen III?????

Who is bashing? Facts are facts, and DC should step it up. Why do you cry and whine like a baby? **** it up.

Vipah, if this is your way of talking crap and trying to make a statement to DC, pull your head out of your *** and realize that your comments are taken personal by the GEN III crowd. If you want to make your statement about Z06 Vette "beating" a GEN III, then it (Z06) would "slaughter" your GEN I\II. Why don't you do yourself a favor and write DC a letter, for your own safety.