Xenon HID bulbs

[V10 MOJO]

got in low beams and fog lights Xenon bulbs from JonB, PartsRack. two questions; first, on box says " severe damage to your vehicle is possible with thte use of a high wattage bulb. second, label says "simulated HID" so my questions are this; whats with this possible damage, what happens? does my frontend melt in fifteen minutes of continuous use or something and what is meant by simulated, i would interpret this as meaning "FAKE" and i dont want fake HID? Im confused

 

[ElDiablo Viper]

If they did not come with an extra starter unit then they are fake.

 

[DSI]

There should be a seperate transformer that plugs into the existing wiring harness, if not there not true HID's. Usually high intensity bulbs draw more power that factory, causing possible problems to the existing wiring harness, that's why there's that warning lable. True HID light's draw less power than factory. Also high intensity bulb's try to give a simulated look like HID's, however usually look like the blue lights that you see in hooked up civic's.

 

[Ron]

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If you paid less the $500, they're probably fake.

If you didn't get a separate ballast with each bulb, they're definitely fake.

And if the bulbs have a filament, there definitely fake.

Extremely high wattage fake HID bulbs are a risk to your headlight housings (heat) and wiring (current).

Perhaps others now carry true HID's, but I have Sean Roe's and love them........
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[jimandela]

I put the xenon HID builbs in my 1999 Navigator.
When the fog light blew it melted the whole **** housing.

lucky the whole truck did not go up.
when i say melted i mean totally melted. whole housing need to be replaced.

I learned my lesson on the truck. don't play with the lights.
dont need the possible headaches

JIM

 

[Ron]

<FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Just to review:

In marketing headlights, Xenon and HID are used interchangably, however just because a conventional filament bulb has a bit of Xenon gas inside the envelope it doesn't mean it's an HID system (High Intensity Discharge).

Real HID system bulbs use an arc (instead of a filament) inside the glass envelope to generate the light. Because there is Xenon gas inside the envelope, they've been called Xenon/HID lights.

A disreputable marketer could call his conventional filament bulb "Xenon" if the envelope has a bit of Xenon gas inside and a blue tint on the glass to simulate the HID look. Pump up the wattage and many will think they have the real thing.

What they got however is a much hotter bulb, (melting housings) one that draws a lot more current (blown fuses or worse) and has an ugly blue tint. They are cheap though.

What they don't have is the true white light of a HID system, better night time visability, the cooler operating temps, the lower current draw and the expense of a real HID system.

Real HID systems also need an external ballast to start the arc. It's about the size of a deck of cards and you need one for each bulb. No ballast, no HID. In Sean Roe's kit, the ballast fits inside the housing so you have a very nice, very clean install. Been using it for over a year with no problems.


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[Devin 97 Blue GTS]

I installed the following with no problems PIAA 9007 Xtreme White Plus 65/55w -&gt; 120/110w (2 Pack) for the heads and PIAA H3 Super Plasma 55W -&gt; 110W (2 Pack) for the fogs

 

[jcaspar1]

I have Sean's true HID's and Hiper bulb-H3 80=100w H.I. White for the fog lights. The HID's are $$ but worth it. The Hiper bulbs work fine, not much brighter but they match the HID's prettty well. Were only 12$ each from www.autobulbdepot.com. I also did the fog light relay trick to allow the fog lights to run with the highbeams.