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  1. Bruce H.

    Viper Mini-Meet and track event at Road Atlanta 6/21-22 and Virginia Int'l 6/25-26

    Re: Viper Mini-Meet and track event at Road Atlanta 6/21-22 and Virginia Int'l 6/25-2 Great! I'll probably post a thread in another forum where all Viper gen owners and enthusiasts will hopefully see it depending on reaction here.
  2. Bruce H.

    Viper Mini-Meet and track event at Road Atlanta 6/21-22 and Virginia Int'l 6/25-26

    Chin Motorsports are holding their excellent high performance driving school events there again, and I'd like to see if there's interest in putting together a Viper Mini-Meet as part of that. http://www.chinmotorsports.com/ The Supra community did that at Road Atlanta with a Panoz Track...
  3. Bruce H.

    Boy. Some some people are so fickle.

    Bob, You've done a great job of letting everyone know your early impressions of many aspects of the TA...thanks for taking the time to share. Since I'm about to book a 3000 mile trip to a pair of tracks with a friend with a C7 and our wives, I think the thing that seems of paramount importance...
  4. Bruce H.

    track fever

    After tracking for 10 years with all the go fast goodies, and track wheels crammed inside for trips up to 17 hours, I did change my mind...stop hauling the track wheels and make sure the next car has wide enough wheels for some serious street rubber! Hello TA :2tu: I'm looking at booking with...
  5. Bruce H.

    Does Viper have built-in roll bar/roll over protection suitable for 6 pt harness use?

    Re: Does Viper have built-in roll bar/roll over protection suitable for 6 pt harness I'm glad to know that there is a bar of some sort in there as well, but... We should bear in mind that the existence of a factory built-in roll bar that meets gov't standards may not necessarily meet the same...
  6. Bruce H.

    track fever

    My goal has always been to more fully enjoy the high performance cars I have collected, and a big part of that became the art of high performance driving on the track, but also the enjoyment of driving them to and from distant tracks through amazing countryside that I would have never...
  7. Bruce H.

    Does Viper have built-in roll bar/roll over protection suitable for 6 pt harness use?

    Re: Does Viper have built-in roll bar/roll over protection suitable for 6 pt harness Okay, that makes more sense now. I didn't realize that the race seat itself is so tall, and that it would actually offer protection from the roof itself. Yes, I can see that I need a race seat! Thanks for...
  8. Bruce H.

    Does Viper have built-in roll bar/roll over protection suitable for 6 pt harness use?

    Re: Does Viper have built-in roll bar/roll over protection suitable for 6 pt harness I discussed this with Ralph today, and he confirmed that it does have a built-in roll bar that meets gov't standards for roll over, and that for his mix of a few track days and lots of street use that he does...
  9. Bruce H.

    Does Viper have built-in roll bar/roll over protection suitable for 6 pt harness use?

    Re: Does Viper have built-in roll bar/roll over protection suitable for 6 pt harness Tony, that looks very good actually. Thx for posting those. I'm going to ask the plant manager about this today and will post the response when I receive it. I read about it on Corvette forums not long ago...
  10. Bruce H.

    Does Viper have built-in roll bar/roll over protection suitable for 6 pt harness use?

    Re: Does Viper have built-in roll bar/roll over protection suitable for 6 pt harness The C7 verts do, which gives me hope that the Gen V may as well .
  11. Bruce H.

    Does Viper have built-in roll bar/roll over protection suitable for 6 pt harness use?

    Re: Does Viper have built-in roll bar/roll over protection suitable for 6 pt harness Todd actually has exactly the same concern about the strength of the roof with the 6 point. You have a better chance of survival under a collapsed roof with a 3 point that let's your head and body get out of...
  12. Bruce H.

    Does Viper have built-in roll bar/roll over protection suitable for 6 pt harness use?

    Re: Does Viper have built-in roll bar/roll over protection suitable for 6 pt harness Are you saying that a good race seat will stop the roof from collapsing to the point where using a 6 point harness is okay without a roll cage? If it has a very study roof, that is designed to keep the roof...
  13. Bruce H.

    track fever

    Haha...me too!
  14. Bruce H.

    Does Viper have built-in roll bar/roll over protection suitable for 6 pt harness use?

    Re: Does Viper have built-in roll bar/roll over protection suitable for 6 pt harness Sound advice for racing, but I'm hoping a roll cage won't be necessary to use with a harness for lapping days. My XKR vert has rear roll hoops that deploy, as does the new C7 vert...hopefully the Viper has...
  15. Bruce H.

    Does Viper have built-in roll bar/roll over protection suitable for 6 pt harness use?

    A racing harness on track holds the driver's body in the seat to allow better control of the car, and provides safety in case of impact. But if the roof caves in it can also be disasterous for the driver if his body is held upright underneath it. For this reason 5 and 6 point racing harnesses...
  16. Bruce H.

    track fever

    I've never had a 6 point harness with a harness bar because of the lack of a roll bar, and been recommended against them for that reason. I would definitely be interested in any info you or others find on roll-over protection, and sure others would be as well. I've been able to lock the 3 pt...
  17. Bruce H.

    track fever

    I'm trying to have the harness installed at the factory when they build the car. My only concern is the use of them without a roll cage, and the possibility of the roof collapsing in a roll-over. Does anyone know if the roof has adequate protection from collapse? I've tracked long enough to...
  18. Bruce H.

    Boy. Some some people are so fickle.

    I know some here with GTS and full leather have said they'd pass on that if they were to do it again, and I saw photos of a GTS with all the interior carbon that looked way too trendy and overdone. I've had leather in just about every vehicle for decades and prefer fabric seats that breathe and...
  19. Bruce H.

    Boy. Some some people are so fickle.

    Oh, man...you obviously have absolutely no sensitivity for those of us living in the snow belt! You're killing me. Btw, how are you finding driving it with the reduced visibility with the taller back spoiler? Do you need feel the need for a set of those tacky little round concave mirrors...
  20. Bruce H.

    track fever

    This is very true. The TA comes with r-compounds so I'll be doing a couple of car control and driver developments schools again just to get a sense of where the limits are in a safer environment before hitting the high speed tracks in May. Then I'll be switching over to probably Pilot Super...
  21. Bruce H.

    Boy. Some some people are so fickle.

    I wouldn't have even thought to consider how the TA's interior might compared to a Ferrari or a McLaren, nor particularly cared. That they would be even compared is interesting and flattering given the difference in vehicle costs, but not at all important to me in choosing a new car for its...
  22. Bruce H.

    Car and Driver Lightning Lap Issue

    They softened the dampers, or at least the rears. The spring rate increase over SRT and GTS wasn't enough to account for much of a difference in ride quality, but the TA's more narrow range of dual mode damper valving certainly would. I read a C&D review of the TA media testing at Buttonwillow...
  23. Bruce H.

    Car and Driver Lightning Lap Issue

    I think it's numerous staffers, and they use the best lap. Here's the link to last year's, and follow links to results. http://www.caranddriver.com/features/lightning-lap-2013-hot-cars-hot-track-hot-laps-feature
  24. Bruce H.

    Car and Driver Lightning Lap Issue

    This should be out any day now. Ralph had agreed to give them a TA for this test. We'll all be naturally hoping it takes the top spot, and the Laguna Seca record might indicate it could, but I'm not so sure. Ralph has said the production TA has some changes from the pre-production TA run...
  25. Bruce H.

    Boy. Some some people are so fickle.

    That second pic rivals the great shot of the orange TA. Both are gorgeous, that's for sure.

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