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    A Viper for the Ill-informed Public

    Another e-mail received: "I know it's a serious topic, which is why I decided to speak about this. As an 18 year old, someone who loves the Viper, and someone who realizes that cars are weapons, it should be known that although fast cars are fun, its also dangerous when you don't know what...
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    A Viper for the Ill-informed Public

    Chuck: Idiot parents are the plague of America. Not much you can do with that. Wish there were. I have read arguably most Viper magazine articles; I have seen brief reference to the power of the Viper, but most often, it is stated without specificity. Well, anyway, it was an...
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    A Viper for the Ill-informed Public

    So, you are saying that D-C publishes complete specs on the Dodge Viper, and by doing so, it has told the prospective buyer what he needs to know to make an informed decision? Hmmm, I am not certain that is considered full disclosure. Do I believe that anyone of age, with a valid license, with...
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    A Viper for the Ill-informed Public

    Chuck: Here is the Cliff's Notes version: "It would be better for the company to define the car rather than have the courts do so." ________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________ Here is an e-mail received: "My...
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    A Viper for the Ill-informed Public

    Vic: Tort reform is essential. (No argument there; my professional life is encumbered by endless and frivolous litigation, not the least of which is malingering.) However, a pre-emptive strike in which a vehicles role and purpose is delineated is prophylaxis against some attorney deciding...
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    A Viper for the Ill-informed Public

    You believe that D-C has not at culpability for their vehicles?
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    A Viper for the Ill-informed Public

    Before the post diverges into free associations, the words "lethality," "dangerousness" or "warning" are not part of the concept...er...nor is handwringing. The question was posed as to whether the car is appropriately described to the public. Does the public know what it is other than a...
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    A Viper for the Ill-informed Public

    Let me ask two rhetorical questions to get this back on track (ahem): a. Can a lawsuit be successful that seeks to demonstrate that the Viper is unsafe as it is now sold (Eg. no preparation)? b. Can a liberal group of parents/spouses emerge that asks Congress to cease the manufacture of...
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    A Viper for the Ill-informed Public

    John: It would also be helpful if there was a Prospective Owners F.A.Q. on the site.
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    A Viper for the Ill-informed Public

    The Owner's Manual comes with the car; after the purchase. We are discussing someone who has never owned a Viper and is beginning to shop for one with only the media (magazines) as guidance and possibly a brief test ride. Thus, the prospective buyer misperceives that the vehicle is a(n albeit...
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    A Viper for the Ill-informed Public

    Richard: The term "lethality" applies to many things and many vehicles and would not be necessary, but responsibly informing the public would be helpful and arguably may impact the accident/injury rate in the car. The SRT-10 is a deceptively calm looking car unlike its predecessors, and with...
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    A Viper for the Ill-informed Public

    Ken: I hope the discussion is, indeed, helpful to you. You note correctly that moving from your `68 Corvette to the Viper is quite a change. Reading the posts may be helpful to you. Attending a driving school is always a good idea and if you plan to track the car, it is mandatory. Often...
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    A Viper for the Ill-informed Public

    Joe: JonB's quote makes reference to the risk taker, and that may be a good section further down the list. At the onset, it should begin with some (edit please) like: "The Dodge Viper grew and developed from a race platform. It is a tribute to the manufacturer that it can be driven, with...
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    A Viper for the Ill-informed Public

    Kai: To some extent I agree. That is very flowery and image filled prose...but it is poetic, not grounded in objectivity. I would like to see a call-out box in an article that says: Naive Driver Beware (and then goes on to describe tracking, wheel hop, run flats, etc etc). What you...
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    A Viper for the Ill-informed Public

    Rick & Mike: Let me address two areas: a. If the father had been informed as to what he was buying, he may have elected to defer on a Viper for his son, perhaps own one himself and educate the kid regarding its wild nature. I do not feel that moving him from through a progression of cars...
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    A Viper for the Ill-informed Public

    There was (is there still) a separate motorcycle license in many States that differentiate between 500cc bikes and those above. However, you can buy a bike without a Class M license. I do not ever want to see the goverment more involved in regulating our purchases. It is very important that...
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    A Viper for the Ill-informed Public

    Responsible parents would be a step in the right direction, but some parents are as irresponsible in their driving skills/habits as their children. No, I vote for a better Viper ad campaign and dealership brochures. It would also help if shootouts noted that the Viper and the Porsche are quite...
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    A Viper for the Ill-informed Public

    Mike: Even so, that fails to tell the kid, and the public, that this is a streetable race car, and, as such, is unlike any other car he is likely to own.
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    A Viper for the Ill-informed Public

    The post of the 17 year-old, Viper owner, and the tragic death of his 18 year old passenger, brings to bear several important factors that are not being addressed (and Jim points out several): 1. The Viper is not like the muscle cars of the late 60s/early 70s. 2. The Viper requires...
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    How did you get your Viper?

    Joe: My stock playing motto has always been: "buy high", "sell low." And, I am quite good at it. It will be the year 2114 before I have finished writing off losses.
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    One SERIOUS poser mod that blew everybody away! (pics)

    K-tel records presents every song ever made. Yes, you can own every song ever made, and...we'll throw in a Vegematic and a Popeil Pocket Fisherman. But wait... that's not all
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    How did you get your Viper?

    Been looking and have a fax'd quote from 1992 ($88k) for one of the first ones. Seemed a prohibitive markup for a $50k car. Looked again in `96 but there was waiting list. Tried to complete on a used `99 ACR, but the dealer was unapproachable. Tried on a 2002 Final Edition, but dealer had a...
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    One SERIOUS poser mod that blew everybody away! (pics)

    Financial shortfall, NOMERCY? VCA members can pool resources and assist. I told you CMGI was not a good buy.
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    Corsa exhaust question

    Daniel: Corsa's site has not been updated. The current model is the "Track."
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    My collection of Snakes continues to grow

    Mark: What did you find to be the range of prices for Final Edition ACRs?

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