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    Oh for god sakes

    It would have been the highest hp and tq car produced by a major US manufacturer, if I am not mistaken, until the Shelby issue came up. And people complain?
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    Gen V - How much of the design and engineering resources were outsourced?

    Hope their engineering quality is better than their website. Just saying....
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    Any guesses on what the Gev-V GTS hood would cost to replace ;)

    Just total the car.....you know the game. Why ask? Actually, I noticed that the hood does not wrap totally down and around like the Gen II. Should be easier to produce. Not less expensive, though.
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    Apology to Ralph Gilles and Dick Winkles

    :usa:And I have not seen this in any of the threads... THANK YOU FOR HAVING IT BE BUILT IN THE USA WHERE IT SHOULD BE! PRESUMABLY BY THE SAME PEOPLE! Well done!:usa::usa::usa::usa::usa::usa::usa::usa::usa::usa: There should be a gathering of the local Vipers when the first one comes off the...
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    Things you gotta love about the Gen V

    Cup holders. It stops all the stupid threads. Issue is dead.
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    SRT Viper #001 to be sold for charity, How much?

    350k I think.
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    Plastic engine covers look terrible..

    Mike, With all due respect, we completely disagree on this one. Guess there is a first time for everything. I get it and you get it that the plastic covers look strange. You need to look at the target audience. These are guys who do not open up their engine bay or do anything to their car...
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    Color Match Front Grill for Gen V

    This whole thing could be an option, just like painting stripes. SRT......You listening? One of your first options on the car! No engineering manhours needed. Simple enough.......
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    Fog Lights!!??

    Ahhhhh no. The ACR's in Gen II never had them. They are not any less of a Viper. Plus you have the LED's in the new one. You have all the light you need. Just extra weight and more things to break IMHO.
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    Reducing the price of the Gen V starts with the owners.

    Respectfully no. I don't need a police state with some person sitting behind a DMV counter that I can't buy a certain type of car. If you get killed because of your bad driving....that is on you. If you injure another, you should be destitute. Pay for your actions. This exact thread has...
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    Death of the Viper

    Black Mamba, While we have disagreed in the past, I think of all of the threads started in the last few months, yours is the most compelling of arguments. While it is true, as others have stated, the GT was ended for at least one Federal mandate, there may have been others as well. On to the...
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    What Will Clarkson and Tanner Say About the Gen V ?

    Correct. "It is an axe murderer" or "No handling". "No Soul". "Fine for unrefined Americans". As if any of us care about what he thinks. What is his claim to fame? None. Let him drive a Mini Cooper and pay 10 bucks per gallon.
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    Interior Pic Just Released

    *************************************** Agree with the first part of the above quote. As far as the carbon fiber goes, while some may be impressed, it really does nothing for the overall performance of the vehicle but greatly impacts the cost. Use of carbon fiber, in the right places, makes...
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    2012 Shelby Mustang; 950 hp. Intro at New York Auto Show

    Listen to the engine and the drivability of that car with the power level. If you can't understand the engineering involved, then of course you will not get it.
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    Might be leaving the Gen3 family...ordered 13' gt500

    Enjoy the car. Remember....even if others "don't get it", who cares? This board has changed so much in the last 5 years. I hope that you get the car that you want and expect.
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    Dodge Viper driver loses control in deadly crash

    That intersection is between two developments. Not much of an opportunity to go really fast there. Something messed up happened...... Condolences to some and get well wishes to others....
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    Do you guys think viper parts of america have good prices??

    It's a profit deal.....
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    Help Me Choose 02 GTS OR 03+ Viper

    Trust Steve.....he knows what he is talking about. In my opinion, buy the 02, however. This stuff of the interior, etc. I call bull. If you want an interior, buy a Lincoln. The seats are great in the 02. It is comfortable. The only big difference is the air conditioning. 02 is...
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    Gen 5 Viper

    Perhaps you should observe all the information. The Viper will have less than the Mustang regardless of the rumors. More elitist garbage from Viper owners that gives all Viper owners a bad name. The Mustang is a car that you can actually buy.....not just talk about. Viper with 800 hp? No...
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    Just to say........................

    Merry Christmas from the deep South.
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    No More Dodge!!!!!!!!!

    Tell you what.... If they don't want to use the Dodge nameplate, I will buy it off of them for a couple of bucks. All that intellectual property, good will and history. Seems like there is a lot of value there to me.
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    dealer has a lemon GTS for sale for top dollar? WTF

    Ahhhhhh no. Surprised so many have answered but did not take the other side. Tomball is one of the top dealers. If anyone in the south can sort out a car, it is them. Why is it a joke? Unless you know the current state of the car and the story behind it, I would suggest that you not spout...
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    How NOT to wash your Viper!

    The story I heard is that the person had just purchased the car from a police impoundment lot. It was originally a hot car. After purchasing said car, the new owner noticed that the car did not have clean title. Seeking to get his/her money back with little financial damage, on the way home...
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    Viper mileage whining

    You are correct and you have a very very good grasp of a signficant problem. At one time, my car was being valued because of a divorce. Right prior to the hearing, some anonymous person comes on this website, posts a "what do you think the car is worth" thread and then there was an attempt to...
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    Vipers looking for revenge at The Ring Today!!!

    My hearty congratulations to the entire team of engineers, drivers, sponsors and all who made this happen. :usa:

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