01 Sapphire ACR Repair

ViperNM

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I’m looking for some recommendations on reputable, quality Viper repair. This past weekend I drove my 01 Sapphire ACR from Albuquerque, NM to a SCCA regional event in Pueblo, CO at PMI. I need one more class and two regional races in order to receive my regional license. The class was given by Danny Collins of Danny Collins Racing School. Anyway as I was completing turn eight and letting the car’s momentum track out, I hit a patch of oil at the same time there is a small dip in the road. I was literally thrown off the track into the grass. At this point it was both feet in. I hit a tire wall and came to rest in a dirt embankment. Lucky for me a friend of mine was able to trailer my car back to Albuquerque and I took a flight from Colorado Springs back home.

The car is currently at a dealership and tomorrow the wrecked pieces, which include, the front fascia, driver’s side headlight assembly, driver’s side sill and driver’s door will be removed. The hood looks fine but we’ll see once we get it off and see if any stress cracks exist. At this point, I don’t know if there is any frame damage. The front control arms are fine but the front clip may be toast. The steering is toast and I believe the steering gear is shot. I lost the serpentine belt and the power steering pulley.

I’d like to say that insurance is going to cover this, but that simply is not the case. Tough lesson – don’t race it if you can’t walk away from it. So I will be footing the bill for the repairs. My feeling is that if there is no frame damage, the guys locally can do the work. I can get used body parts for about a third to one fourth of what DC wants for them and the dealer has no problem with me supplying the parts. If, however, there is frame damage and the front clip needs to be replaced, then I will probably send it out of state to someone who has a track record in these sort of repairs. So who would you guys recommend? My short list includes Bobby Archer, Defratus Collision and Woodhouse. What are your thoughts?

The car has 3,000 miles with upgrades to the brakes, brake lines, headers, exhaust, heads, cam, T&Ds, etc. The car dynos out at 560 RWHP/580TQ. Oh yeah it also has a Venzano interior and MGW goodies.
 

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I'm not sure I can help you being in Louisville, KY, but I have rebuilt a few Vipers and getting ready to start my 3rd. If you go here:

KY AUTOSALES

Go to rebuildables, then go to services, you can see my 2000 RT/10 I rebuilt. (Yes I FIXED the hood....)

If you have any questions maybe I can help.....
 
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You never know. If I've got frame issues it will go out of state to someone who has experience with these cars. BTW have you ever welded a new front frame section on a Viper? One more question: what do you use to bring the frame back in spec?

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Yes,
Cut and replaced one front frame section. In the photo's of my RT/10, I actually repaired the all of the damage. I painstakinly cut apart the front frame rails (that always seem to get damaged in any front end collision) and rewelded them. Very solid. You can see the "all-metal" in some of the photo's where the welds were finsihed smooth. It would take a very keen eye to spot the frome damage when it was all finished an repainted. As for Spec? Measure, measure, and re-measure! Fortunately I had another Viper for reference to make sure it was on the money. Hope that helps....

PS - I disclosed everything when I sold the car, including showing the wrecked pictures. There are so many "bad" salvage title cars out there, no one will usually give one fixed right a chance!

I wish you the best and hope you can get a quality repair....
 

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One more thing. I am not trying to get your business! I hardly have enough time for my own projects. Like I said, I've done a couple of these... I am by no means an EXPERT! I just wanted to give your thread some attention, since I can sympathize with your woes.....

Quality takes T-I-M-E......
 
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Appreciate it. Guess I'm not on the A list. With no assisstance it just means I've got to spend a lot more time researching all this stuff.

Take care
 

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ViperNM...if you need parts, let me know, i can just about get any parts you need for your repair, even the whole front frame section, but find out who is gonna be fixing it and what part do you need first....e-mail me...thanks
 
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I'm going with Bobby Archer. In fact, they're picking up my car at the dealership this Saturday with a trailer. How's that for response time? We put it on the frame rack and the front clip definitely has a kink in it and so I'm going with a new front frame section (I call it the clip). This, in my opinion, is the only way to go. It is a pain since engine, tranny,etc. has to be removed but I want it right.

Bobby has some great frame guys that know what they're doing plus he builds race cars. The only other guys close to me would be 3-R racing in Colorado. Only down side is they're pretty busy right now and mucho $.

Don't have a parts list together yet but I'll be calling on you guys for stuff that Bobby doesn't have and I can't find. Interesting reaction by the dealer in town. They were so relieved that I had an alternative to them doing the repair. I think they've done no more than 2 frame repairs and they didn't inspire my confidence plus I don't think they wanted to be on the hook to repair my car.

I'm looking forward to gettin' my baby back by Labor Day! I'll keep you guys posted.

Mike in Albuquerque
 
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Well Bobby Archer Motorsports picked up the car today around noon. A day earlier than I thought. Work begins Monday morning. Even though Bobby says the car will be done before Labor Day, I'm thinking of picking it up for VOI. That would be a cool 'coming out'.

And don't read anything into my last statement .....
 

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