2010 ACR convertible
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viperpalmer
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Lets not forget about the loss of body rigidity.
Boxer12
Enthusiast
I have to agree, a vert has no place on the track....
NHL2133
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rcl4668
Enthusiast
I would be very interested.
In our region (Pacific NW), I am only aware of one club (BMW CCA) that has a uniform ban on convertibles. Most other clubs in our region (Cascade, Team Continental, BMW ACA, OR PCA etc.) allow convertibles at DE and HPDE events as long as the car has legitimate rollover protection. For my 2008, this meant the installation of an Autoform rollbar and a 1 inch lowering kit from Northwind Engineering to meet the 1 inch "broomstick test" of measuring a striaght line from the top of the rollbar to the top of the windshield frame. There must be at least 1'' clearance from this line to the top of one's helmet or you get sent home.
Also, I have to say that--for me at least--the fun and thrill of an HPDE is magnified many times by the open air experience. There's just nothing like it; it's like driving a modern day 427 Cobra.
/Rich
Warfang
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That's too bad for Ms. Jolie.
But like you... she has been in a Viper.
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Warfang
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I asked the SRT engineers about roll bars and they ran for the hills!
Seems more like a legal issue than an engineering one. Maybe Herb can chime in on this.
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YellowViperSRT10
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While I personally would never buy an ACR convertible. Convertibles are OK for the track. Not unless you are a serious semi pro racer in real competition, then maybe you may not want one. But are you guys forgetting how many Boxsters, Spec Miata's, S2000's etc... are running in the SCCA? LOTS! and as long as you have the correct roll over protection, you are just as good, and usually a lot better then a coupe with no roll over protection.
Like someone else said, Ferrari did it with the F430 Scuderia 16M. I would say the car is more of a race car then an ACR (forgetting the price). I mean for the typical guy track guy who street drives his car and does some DE's, are you honestly saying you cannot have a properly made convertible on the track and still be ok or safe? come on! the answer is yes! Let's all not act like every weekend we drive in the Le Mans GTS series. Again, would I ever buy an ACR convertible. NO!
Like someone else said, Ferrari did it with the F430 Scuderia 16M. I would say the car is more of a race car then an ACR (forgetting the price). I mean for the typical guy track guy who street drives his car and does some DE's, are you honestly saying you cannot have a properly made convertible on the track and still be ok or safe? come on! the answer is yes! Let's all not act like every weekend we drive in the Le Mans GTS series. Again, would I ever buy an ACR convertible. NO!
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Andrew2KRT10
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Not me, and I'm an rt owner. Not for an ACR, takes away all the performance look, and on the track I would want that top over my head.
Janni
Enthusiast
Until you've been at the track in a fairly "simple" incident that left someone you care about hanging upside down, you likely won't understand the need for a lid at track events.
Stuff can go wrong quickly at the 165 MPH speeds the Viper routinely sees. You should want every bit of protection you can get.
Stuff can go wrong quickly at the 165 MPH speeds the Viper routinely sees. You should want every bit of protection you can get.
viperDoug
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Exactly! Everyone is concentrating on the rollover protection from getting your neck broken, but what about debris flying through the air at over 100 mph that can kill you as well. Debris you would otherwise be protected from with a roof. And I have to laugh at the picture of the 1965 Shelby Cobra. Yeah, nothing has changed since then.
SweetRed04
Viper Owner
I am just curious what you think a Viper Coupe's roof would do for you in a high speed rollover.
True it is more than nothing as on a convertible, but not enough to really mean much if you are going over 60 mph....
If a Viper is running over 100 when it rolls I don't think that the coupe's roof would do enough to make a difference.
True it is more than nothing as on a convertible, but not enough to really mean much if you are going over 60 mph....
If a Viper is running over 100 when it rolls I don't think that the coupe's roof would do enough to make a difference.
Chuck 98 RT/10
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Nothing wrong with tracking a convertible. I just don't think a vert fits the image of the ACR.
Boxer12
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I think everyone understands that a coupe is safer than a vert on the track. Let's put it like this...would you rather have the aero working with an ACR vert, or just go out in an SRT-10 vert and turn corners at 100+? Isn't that downforce a good thing? I suppose that you could put a top on it like they do (or used to do) in Viper Days, then go ******* on the street.
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VIPER GTSR 91
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DITTO..........No way
