01sapphirebob
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Rest assured that pic is not the GEN V viper. I believe even in the article it states it's "R&T" idea of whst one would look like.
2012 Viper model was introduced at Orlando, Fl.
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Rest assured that pic is not the GEN V viper. I believe even in the article it states it's "R&T" idea of whst one would look like.
While I'd love to see Viper come back to ALMS to compete in GT2 w/ the Corvettes, that doesn't exactly make business sense. Gee lets take a company that just went bankrupt, then take a car that nobody is buying right now, then spend millions to go racing only to develop a new car and bring it to market at sell a few grand a year max....
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You mean a 48f/52r isn't good enough...
A Viper is not nose heavy. Unlike what most people "think" 50/50 is not the perfect weight "balance" 45/55 to 48/52 is! You need a little extra weight in the rear to plant the rear tires in corner exits. You also need that little extra weight in the rear to help with breaking. Ever feel a car get light in the ass when you stomp the brakes. Ever try to take off fast in a pickup? It ***** because it doesn't have enough weight in the back.
On a positive note....this might be the Viper that gets me out of a Gen 2 GTS. I like my cars just the same as my woman: World Class performer, with **** curves.
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MTGTS
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The other cars there were "labeled" as 2013's from what the people that I talked to said
I know the Viper is technically a front-mid configuration as are the C5/C6 Corvettes in that no part of the engine extends beyond the front wheel centerline.
Didn't realize they were rearward weight biased.... I do think getting that big lunk of a trans rearward will allow them to make a much more spacious interior.
I'm 6'4 and part of the reason I own 2 C5 Corvettes is simply because I fit in the properly. By propertly I mean I can heel-toe downshift and take sharp turns without my hands/arms getting into my knees.
There are plenty of people that will stuff themselves into a sportscar and fit just well enough to shift a few gears and make it the the local car cruise, but for me.... if I can't drive it around a race track w/o my body getting it it's own way then I won't own it.
This is what has kept me out of a Gen III car.... my left knee hits the dash when shifting, my hands hit my legs on hard turns, and my torso is such that I have to look down to see out of the windshield.... all of that *****... car is ****, but the driving experience *****. I don't care about getting attention or any of that... I find that annoying.... I just want to drive.
So... a rear mounted trans like the Corvette would free up Dodge to make a much more fitting interior that will fit a wider range of customers.
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Didn't realize they were rearward weight biased.... I do think getting that big lunk of a trans rearward will allow them to make a much more spacious interior.
I'm 6'4 and part of the reason I own 2 C5 Corvettes is simply because I fit in the properly. By propertly I mean I can heel-toe downshift and take sharp turns without my hands/arms getting into my knees.
There are plenty of people that will stuff themselves into a sportscar and fit just well enough to shift a few gears and make it the the local car cruise, but for me.... if I can't drive it around a race track w/o my body getting it it's own way then I won't own it.
This is what has kept me out of a Gen III car.... my left knee hits the dash when shifting, my hands hit my legs on hard turns, and my torso is such that I have to look down to see out of the windshield.... all of that *****... car is ****, but the driving experience *****. I don't care about getting attention or any of that... I find that annoying.... I just want to drive.
So... a rear mounted trans like the Corvette would free up Dodge to make a much more fitting interior that will fit a wider range of customers.
Oh IB4Tobligatory"butI'm6'10"andfitinaViperjustfinewithmyseatloweringkitandavatoflard" posts
certs_210
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Posted this in another thread, then saw this one.
Not sure if these are real pics of the new concept, or where they even came from. And as a disclaimer, there are some gratuitous pics that might not be appropriate for work mixed in...
theTHROTTLE: High Quality Photos of new Dodge Viper theTHROTTLE
Not sure if these are real pics of the new concept, or where they even came from. And as a disclaimer, there are some gratuitous pics that might not be appropriate for work mixed in...
theTHROTTLE: High Quality Photos of new Dodge Viper theTHROTTLE
That is the Chrysler Firepower not a Viper. Note the Chrysler insignia on the grille. The Firepower came close to production but alas it was not to be.
Do believe , as many have said , it will be a 2013 and likely debut in 2013.
Also think VOI just got hotter and there will be plenty of fun stuff to see.
Lastly , the conjecture about the new car having traction control, stability mgmt. , etc will happen as these are the government forces that will change our car. The 2010 will be, like many others have stated, a watershed machine, and frankly something we will never see again. I thank God everyday that Fiat was whom Chrysler partnered with, as we will likely have a traction control system that will completely turn off . There is no way with Daimler that would ever happen , as many have found out with SRT8 300s and Chargers. Some shared engineering from Ferrari sure sounds better than shared with Mercedes.We often see the impact of the Tifosi worldwide, and in a few weeks Sergio will see the passion of the Viperosi --- Snakes alive, we need a V10 to drive!!
Also think VOI just got hotter and there will be plenty of fun stuff to see.
Lastly , the conjecture about the new car having traction control, stability mgmt. , etc will happen as these are the government forces that will change our car. The 2010 will be, like many others have stated, a watershed machine, and frankly something we will never see again. I thank God everyday that Fiat was whom Chrysler partnered with, as we will likely have a traction control system that will completely turn off . There is no way with Daimler that would ever happen , as many have found out with SRT8 300s and Chargers. Some shared engineering from Ferrari sure sounds better than shared with Mercedes.We often see the impact of the Tifosi worldwide, and in a few weeks Sergio will see the passion of the Viperosi --- Snakes alive, we need a V10 to drive!!
Blue Batmobile
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I knew I had a reason to come back to the fold
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ICP
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I was at the meeting and can confirm that the Motor Trend mock up is NOT the 2012/13 Gen V Viper. The car was NOT driven out but rather moved out on a rotating platform.
Security was very tight so no pictures, sorry. I can tell you however that the car was Stunning! You will not be disappointed!!
Kris in Toronto
Security was very tight so no pictures, sorry. I can tell you however that the car was Stunning! You will not be disappointed!!
Kris in Toronto
01sapphirebob
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Ugh! I'm going crazy!!!!!!! Is it Sep. 30th yet!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!
shooter_t1
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Correct. Except in, as I'm sure you know, the Jeep. It only dials the TC back 10% in the Jeep.
Edit: Maybe the 09/10's are different. (Except the Jeep).
Viper ACR
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Ugh! I'm going crazy!!!!!!! Is it Sep. 30th yet!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!
My thoughts exactly .
Mine turns off completely after the ten second continuous push. ( This feature is not in the woner's manual.) It even states same and provides a warning on the display. One of the interesting aspects of that is that for standing mile runs it actually ran better with it on. If you push the button less than ten seconds, it only partially turns it off. This may be what you are referring to.
big-n-italian
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the car you saw - do you feel it was just some crazy experimental design, or do you feel the design you saw was closer to being more production ready?
Lawrenzo
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Here is some info from MIBZ.com
Future Dodge Viper Based On Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione
The concept of the new Viper is actually an Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione with ” Viper face,” said one of the dealers. Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione is an exclusive car, available in coupe and cabrio body versions, with limited production, being also the most expensive model ever built by Alfa Romeo.
Future Dodge Viper Based On Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione
The concept of the new Viper is actually an Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione with ” Viper face,” said one of the dealers. Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione is an exclusive car, available in coupe and cabrio body versions, with limited production, being also the most expensive model ever built by Alfa Romeo.
Jeff Lemke
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All this excitment about the New Viper has me going crazy to see what they came up with. People who know me here know that I LOVE car design and Ralph is my Hero. Hands down my all time favorite car designer. I think he's a genious and I'm going nuts waiting to see what he has in store for us for the next Viper.
That being said, I'm about to release my own mid-engine supercar in a few short months. It's been a dream of mine to do such a thing and I'm quite proud of it. The car design is inspired from every sports car I've ever loved which includes Corvettes, Ferrari's, Ford GT and of course the VIPER. I've never shown it to the public but because everyone here is clamoring to see the new Viper I decided I would show my most Viper inspired section of my new car, which is the front fascia (sorry, the rest of the car can be shown in January ).
Anyhow, I hope this teaser play's with your imagination. I'm as excited to see the new car as anyone even tho I'm still hard at work on finishing mine. Enjoy.
That being said, I'm about to release my own mid-engine supercar in a few short months. It's been a dream of mine to do such a thing and I'm quite proud of it. The car design is inspired from every sports car I've ever loved which includes Corvettes, Ferrari's, Ford GT and of course the VIPER. I've never shown it to the public but because everyone here is clamoring to see the new Viper I decided I would show my most Viper inspired section of my new car, which is the front fascia (sorry, the rest of the car can be shown in January
). Anyhow, I hope this teaser play's with your imagination. I'm as excited to see the new car as anyone even tho I'm still hard at work on finishing mine. Enjoy.
^ What chassis are you basing your car on? Buiding a completely new tubeframe like the FFR GTM? That front looks really cool... I assume those indented ares will be the headlights?
Doesn't really scream Viper to me... more like RX-8 + Evo + Corvette + Panoz which is still a very good thing.
Doesn't really scream Viper to me... more like RX-8 + Evo + Corvette + Panoz which is still a very good thing.
big-n-italian
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your nose looks alot like the nose found on an "Attack" kit car.
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8C is a good base starting point, though I doubt we will get all that expensive Carbon Fiber. The front end mock-up looks great. I see Saleen hood vents from the 97' and up SRs. I see a little ole Cobra look to the center section. I see great potential for that. Cross hairs have been done to death. Time to just let it open up and say ah........ to all other cars on the road. Add in some of those Audi style head lights, round out the side vents or fog light area at the sides of the grills and there you have it. It is clear your design is based off the 8C body correct? At least I see it. Got me wondering about the back.
ICP
Viper Owner
In my opinion it looked like a production car, granted no one was able to get very close to it. It did not come across as a concept...IMO it was a great mix of cues from past, present and the future. It was clearly the highlight of the presentation as far as i'm concerned.
Jeremy Walker
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All this excitment about the New Viper has me going crazy to see what they came up with. People who know me here know that I LOVE car design and Ralph is my Hero. Hands down my all time favorite car designer. I think he's a genious and I'm going nuts waiting to see what he has in store for us for the next Viper.
That being said, I'm about to release my own mid-engine supercar in a few short months. It's been a dream of mine to do such a thing and I'm quite proud of it. The car design is inspired from every sports car I've ever loved which includes Corvettes, Ferrari's, Ford GT and of course the VIPER. I've never shown it to the public but because everyone here is clamoring to see the new Viper I decided I would show my most Viper inspired section of my new car, which is the front fascia (sorry, the rest of the car can be shown in January
Anyhow, I hope this teaser play's with your imagination. I'm as excited to see the new car as anyone even tho I'm still hard at work on finishing mine. Enjoy.
Wow; very impressive. Can we all throw in some 5 bucks and have you post it now
ICP
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Same Side Pipe location as on current model...if my memory serves correctly...more stylized openings though.
Kris
MoparMan
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While there are definitely styling cues from both GEN's this to me is a whole new car. Wish i could draw you a picture but Art was never one of my strong points.
