580 its in my previous post .If Dan Craigen did your engine feel free to ask him as he sold me alot of parts ect.
132 MPH trap speed thats the number the dyno sheet you provided can be manipulated left and right =its worthless you can not manipulate a trap speed on stock tires.You not a drag racer you dont understand the difference between ET TRAP SPEED ECT.WHEN I FIRST PUT THE CAR TOGETHER IN 96 THERE WAS NO Dfi ECT AVAIL (Dan did the PCM when they became available recalibrated it to work better with the Perfect Power.
ALRIGHT MAKE IT 700 TO THE TIRE THEN .WHEN YOU RUN 11.2 AT 132 ON STOCK TIRES COME BACK AND TALK TO ME untill then any posted dyno sheet graph is BS .
What can i tell you the car was built to win races at the track not on a sheet of paper.You crack me up
If what iam saying is not true please feel free to say your point .
You dont understand what iam saying your relying on a dyno number thats not as precise as you think it is esp, a Chasis dyno .Alot of factors can influence the number .I dynoed with 3.55 gears if i were to go back to 3.07 the car would probably go up to 625 .A buddy of mine (Vca NJ) Joe Scogosa dynoes the same place as i do Bob Idas .(He ran the same basic set up -smaller came no bottom end )The first time he ever dynoed his car he laid down a figure 25 horsepower more than i ever made .At the VCA Nats we let Smith drive both cars and his car was 4 mph near mine BUT that one time he dynoed higher .
Please..BTW I have 3:55 gears with the 3:07s Its only like a 10rwhp difference. So my car would of made 10 more rwhp if I had the stock gearing..Its irrevelant since you dont race your car too many variables explain why my buddy dynoed 25 horsepower more than i ever did and his car driven by the same driver at the same track on the same day was much slower .from 580 to 625?
Instead of racing on paper why not go to your local track as see if you can run an 11.2 at 132 on stock tiresfrom 580 to 625?
I find it interesting that a large cam motor with very high flowing heads still has it HP peak at 5,300 rpm just like a stock Viper engine. I would have thought the power peak would be significantly higher - more like an 08/09.
Thats the problem anyone and everyone can come up with a dyno sheet with a figure (HMS has made a living of doing this very thing )not everything can come up with a trap speed at the end of a quarter mile.Either the car runs it or it does not .Not relying on correction factors ,different dyno types ,rear end ratios ,engine temp during pulls ect ect ect .Shiiiiit...I did that on my 488ci motor with no timing
He did not lie ALL DYNOS read differently = you CAN NOT compare-race dyno sheets and say one car is making more power than another THE ONLY WAY to tell that is go to the track same day same track same driver and run them .
This case in particular your comparing one Viper Never been raced that has only a top end kit using the stock head casting (probably RUNNING CATS )to another with basically a full blown Built RACE engine no cats ,different heads that was raced all over the place for 10 years and DYNO bench racing them.
Exactly thats why i said you need the same driver (pro ability )same day same track running BOTH CARS.
Plum these guys go by these damn dyno numbers like they are Gospal.
Yes its certainly alot more precise that way .Once again though i use the SAME DYNO as Scogaza One day the dyno read he made more [power (25 )more than i ever did yet the cars are not simular as he had bolt ons like your self .
Thats funny .If your truely making 50 to the tire more than i am your car should CONSISTANTLY trap an easy 3-4 mph more.Thats why its such a great barometer.Thats why i said to go to a sea level track with a good driver ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSES if your making 625 to the tire thats an easy 133 plus trap speed .Stock 08 run 130s .Get an expert driver same day same track to run YOUR CAR and a Gen 4 if you cant beat the Gen 4 you are not making the power indicative of what that PARTICULAR dyno is saying.(AND NONE of this BS i pulled next to an 08 and raced side by side .Put the same drver in both cars )There are variables in everything. A little gust of wind could hinder your trap speed MPH..
It should(move the power band a few hundreds higher ) not that Chriss would notice anyway.
Thats true. We all can't be a legendary race car driver, and a top mechanic, who knows everyone and is admired, and has owned several Vipers, like you. We can all aspire though.
