9005/9006/9011 Let's Talk Gen II headlamp bulbs (hi-beam = odd size)

[PhoenixGTS]

9005/9006/9011 Let\'s Talk Gen II headlamp bulbs (hi-beam = odd size)

I has heard here on the forum a few times that the Vipers have 9005 low beams and 9006 high beams. I ordered a low beam HID kit and when it arrived I thought it looked so nice I ordered a 9006 kit for the high beams without verifying the fitment (supplier also thought highs = 9006). Started install and realized there was an issue. Could not find the bulb sizes in the service manual, but the owners manual says 9005 low and 9011 for the high beam. I decided to use the 9006 kit in the low beams of my truck which I verified are 9006, and then grab some Sylvania Silverstars halogens for the Viper high beams (low only HID allows for totaly clean install with ballst/ignitor unit completely within the headlight enclosure). Go to store and cannot find ANY 9011 bulb of any sort. Sylvania hard copy fitment guide shows 9005ST-9005CB for the Viper in a column labeled "high beam/low beam." Confused I come home and pop onto Sylvania site and find the below fitment guide for bulbs.

This taught me that the ST and CB designations after 9005 are the Sylvania tradenames Silverstar and Cool Blue not a sizing parameter. NOTE that they do not list a bulb for the high beams. What is up with that? Go down in the garage and find that the Silverstar 9005 bulbs I had in the low beams of the Viper fit into the 9011 high beam locations just fine (9006 will NOT fit in a 9005 locations - too big around). So I ended up where I wanted to be, but what the heck is a 9011 bulb? HID Supplier mentioned to me that the Gen III fog lights use a 9011 bulb. Anyone know of an online source that explains how all the bulbs are different? I am assuming that the positioning of the element/light source on a 9011 is different than a 9005 and theoretically my high beam reflectors lose their DOT compliance parameters with 9005 bulbs but I cannot verify.


SYLVANIA ONLINE FITMENT CHART:

1998 DODGE Viper

Low beam headlamp
9005
9005ST Silverstar High Performance Lighting: The Whiter and Brighter Halogen
9005CB Cool Blue Halogen Upgrade: White Hot; Super Cool; 100% Street Legal

Parking light
3157A
3157AST Silverstar Signal Lighting: Complete the Look: Crisp, Clean, Style
3157NALL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
Front turn signal
3157A
3157AST Silverstar Signal Lighting: Complete the Look: Crisp, Clean, Style
3157NALL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
Rear turn signal
3157
3157LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
Tail light
3157
3157LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
Stop light
3157
3157LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
High mount stop light
891
Fog/Driving light
H3-55W
H3ST Silverstar High Performance Lighting: The Whiter and Brighter Halogen
License plate
168
Front sidemarker
194
194LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
Rear sidemarker
3157
3157LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
Dome light
168
Step/Courtesy light
168
Instrument-general
161
194
194LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
74
Directional signal indicator
194
194LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp

 

[red98RT10]

Re: 9005/9006/9011 Let\'s Talk Gen II headlamp bulbs (hi-beam = odd size)

I've wondered this before too. Anyone?

 

[Tim]

Re: 9005/9006/9011 Let\'s Talk Gen II headlamp bulbs (hi-beam = odd size)

I has heard here on the forum a few times that the Vipers have 9005 low beams and 9006 high beams. I ordered a low beam HID kit and when it arrived I thought it looked so nice I ordered a 9006 kit for the high beams without verifying the fitment (supplier also thought highs = 9006). Started install and realized there was an issue. Could not find the bulb sizes in the service manual, but the owners manual says 9005 low and 9011 for the high beam. I decided to use the 9006 kit in the low beams of my truck which I verified are 9006, and then grab some Sylvania Silverstars halogens for the Viper high beams (low only HID allows for totaly clean install with ballst/ignitor unit completely within the headlight enclosure). Go to store and cannot find ANY 9011 bulb of any sort. Sylvania hard copy fitment guide shows 9005ST-9005CB for the Viper in a column labeled "high beam/low beam." Confused I come home and pop onto Sylvania site and find the below fitment guide for bulbs.

This taught me that the ST and CB designations after 9005 are the Sylvania tradenames Silverstar and Cool Blue not a sizing parameter. NOTE that they do not list a bulb for the high beams. What is up with that? Go down in the garage and find that the Silverstar 9005 bulbs I had in the low beams of the Viper fit into the 9011 high beam locations just fine (9006 will NOT fit in a 9005 locations - too big around). So I ended up where I wanted to be, but what the heck is a 9011 bulb? HID Supplier mentioned to me that the Gen III fog lights use a 9011 bulb. Anyone know of an online source that explains how all the bulbs are different? I am assuming that the positioning of the element/light source on a 9011 is different than a 9005 and theoretically my high beam reflectors lose their DOT compliance parameters with 9005 bulbs but I cannot verify.


SYLVANIA ONLINE FITMENT CHART:

1998 DODGE Viper

Low beam headlamp
9005
9005ST Silverstar High Performance Lighting: The Whiter and Brighter Halogen
9005CB Cool Blue Halogen Upgrade: White Hot; Super Cool; 100% Street Legal

Parking light
3157A
3157AST Silverstar Signal Lighting: Complete the Look: Crisp, Clean, Style
3157NALL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
Front turn signal
3157A
3157AST Silverstar Signal Lighting: Complete the Look: Crisp, Clean, Style
3157NALL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
Rear turn signal
3157
3157LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
Tail light
3157
3157LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
Stop light
3157
3157LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
High mount stop light
891
Fog/Driving light
H3-55W
H3ST Silverstar High Performance Lighting: The Whiter and Brighter Halogen
License plate
168
Front sidemarker
194
194LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
Rear sidemarker
3157
3157LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
Dome light
168
Step/Courtesy light
168
Instrument-general
161
194
194LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp
74
Directional signal indicator
194
194LL Long Life Upgrade: Up to twice the life of the standard lamp

 

[Shelby3]

Re: 9005/9006/9011 Let\'s Talk Gen II headlamp bulbs (hi-beam = odd size)

On my 1996 GTS the low beams were 9005 and the high beams 9011. The 9011 plug is keyed identical to the 9005 but the bulb on the 9011 is much taller. I'm running with 9005 in both high/low positions. The 9006 plug is keyed differently and will not fit in either position. I bought a set of 100W 9005 generic bulbs off of Ebay for 13.00 a pair delivered and they are MUCH brighter than even the Silverstars. Been running them for 6 months with no damage to either the wiring or the plastic lens assembly.

 

[jcaspar1]

Re: 9005/9006/9011 Let\'s Talk Gen II headlamp bulbs (hi-beam = odd size)

Wow! Just checked Ebay and you can get 20 100W 9005 bulbs for 25$ !!