Additional gauges with supercharger?
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Bill B
Enthusiast
Boost gauge and an A/F meter are a good idea. They make gauges that are very close to the stock ones.
Gerald
Enthusiast
What Bill Said.. Get yourself a boost gauge. Tells you what your boost is at that exact moment. It's also a good indicator to tell if you ever get belt slip.
Air Fuel is a good idea, but if your not going to be able to tune your own car, that'll only be for looks..
Good Luck!
Gerald
Air Fuel is a good idea, but if your not going to be able to tune your own car, that'll only be for looks..
Good Luck!
Gerald
Simms
Enthusiast
Wideband, fuel pressure, and boost.
CHAD
Enthusiast
Luckily, with a blower, you have time to look at gauges.
Chad
Chad
2MANYTOYS
Enthusiast
Dude give me a freakin break! No need for you to slam everyone that doesn't have a TT setup like yours. Not everyone chooses to go that route. Time for you to get off your horse and come back down to earth.
Joseph Dell
Enthusiast
Don't get too excited about A/F yet. If you aren't doing a wide-band O2, then the O2 is worthless. So you'll need a wideband like an innovate or a tech edge. But the boost is a good idea.
Good luck!
JD
Good luck!
JD
Gerald
Enthusiast
Yeah, come on Chad.. Back down to earth a little now buddy..
You are a GOD amongst us mortals..
Gerald
You are a GOD amongst us mortals..
Gerald
CHAD
Enthusiast
Dude give me a freakin break! No need for you to slam everyone that doesn't have a TT setup like yours. Not everyone chooses to go that route. Time for you to get off your horse and come back down to earth.
Easy Brian, where did that come from?
CHAD
Enthusiast
Yeah, come on Chad.. Back down to earth a little now buddy..
You are a GOD amongst us mortals..
Gerald
Yeah, yeah.
Craig 201 MPH
Enthusiast
LOL
Dude give me a freakin break! No need for you to slam everyone that doesn't have a TT setup like yours. Not everyone chooses to go that route. Time for you to get off your horse and come back down to earth.
Brian, I would think if you had a computer controlling power to the wheels rather than using the throttle and clutch, you might have time to take pictures of yourself while running the quarter mile. Not a lot of time, but likely enough.
THE JIM
2MANYTOYS
Enthusiast
Dude give me a freakin break! No need for you to slam everyone that doesn't have a TT setup like yours. Not everyone chooses to go that route. Time for you to get off your horse and come back down to earth.
Easy Brian, where did that come from?
Chad you act as if S/C cars aren't fast. Sure they are not as fast as your setup but then again they don't cost as much either. Your comment is a poke at everyone who owns a S/C car. Your comment was unnessary and rude at best. The guy simply asked a question about guages for a S/C. You've had a Levin blower, you could have offered some info on guages that would have been helpful. Chad remember, it's always better to be humble it will take you much further.
1TONY1
Enthusiast
I've got to go with Brian on this one Chad. Good grief, at least put a smiley in there.
I use to laugh at Larry Macedo..... He would ask me after a good run, what were your shift points and what was your A/F at those points. I have almost every guage and gadget known to man in my car. After he asked me I would give him this bewildered look and I would say I don't know "I was watching the track."
I got a good idea from Joesph Dell who had gotten it from Doug Levin...I installed a video camera. After a 9 second pass it is difficult to remember every millisecond of what went on.
Now I am prepared for Mr. Macedo to ask what I was doing at each portion of the pass. Now when he ask I say give me a second, I will review the tape and get back to ya.
My point in this Larry Macedo story in this post .....everyone needs to lighten up a bit .....YOU ARE TAKING THIS STUFF ALL TOO SERIOUSLY.
Macedo and Cudaman's race DVD coming to a video store in your neighborhood soon.... (4 Tony)
Cudaman
I got a good idea from Joesph Dell who had gotten it from Doug Levin...I installed a video camera. After a 9 second pass it is difficult to remember every millisecond of what went on.
Now I am prepared for Mr. Macedo to ask what I was doing at each portion of the pass. Now when he ask I say give me a second, I will review the tape and get back to ya.
My point in this Larry Macedo story in this post .....everyone needs to lighten up a bit .....YOU ARE TAKING THIS STUFF ALL TOO SERIOUSLY.
Macedo and Cudaman's race DVD coming to a video store in your neighborhood soon....
(4 Tony)Cudaman
CHAD
Enthusiast
Girls, the smilies just aren't worth the effort on this site. All 4 of them are terrible, otherwise there would have been a smilie.
Shelby, touche. Girls, should I cry?
My post was funny. The only ones who got bent were Unltd racers (and Gerald, what a surprise). I annihilated the class in ONE race. Big deal. You guys will all be back with your top secret this and thats to take me down so what's the big deal? Get over it. The leader gets to have fun too.
As for guages, there was a boost guage Velcroed to my steering column that would slide off on turns. It was really cool. I'd personally suggest no guages and get it tuned by someone you don't have to worry about keeping an eye on. Especially on the street, running WOT (even on a blower car ) and looking down at guages is probably a bad idea, don't you think?
Chad
Shelby, touche. Girls, should I cry?
My post was funny. The only ones who got bent were Unltd racers (and Gerald, what a surprise). I annihilated the class in ONE race. Big deal. You guys will all be back with your top secret this and thats to take me down so what's the big deal? Get over it. The leader gets to have fun too.
As for guages, there was a boost guage Velcroed to my steering column that would slide off on turns. It was really cool. I'd personally suggest no guages and get it tuned by someone you don't have to worry about keeping an eye on. Especially on the street, running WOT (even on a blower car
) and looking down at guages is probably a bad idea, don't you think?Chad
Joseph Dell
Enthusiast
Since we are talking about gauges again, here's what works for me:
a - Cudaman hit it right - video is cool. and it is easier than looking at the laptop.
b - Datalogging. It doesn't matter what the car was tuned for... it will be different on track day. I do this too.
c - real-time adjustment. You need to be able to do this. I had my a/f tuned _perfectly_ before bradenton. But at the track, the conditions were SO good that my a/f ratio was WAY off. So I adjusted it on the fly. See points a and b above for help.
d - knowledge is power (literally). An a/f of 11.5:1 today might mean 10:1 tomorrow or 13.5:1 on wed. bad, bad, bad. gotta know what is going on to be able to make adjustments. Anyone who just runs what they brung b/c it was tuned once, unless tuned EXTREMELY conservatively is playing with fire and (potentially) leaving power on the table.
e - boost is a good gauge to have on a blower car (less important on a turbo) b/c belts will slip. On my last run in bradenton, i reviewed the data-logging and the vid tape and saw the boost gauge jumping around a little. I checked the belt and it looked fine. I checked again b/c I didn't believe it was fine and i saw that it was not fine. wouldn't have noticed w/o the datalogging.
f - I know I'm a novice and have a lot to learn. And I know my driving needs help. So the more knowledge i can have going into things, the better off I am.
a - Cudaman hit it right - video is cool. and it is easier than looking at the laptop.
b - Datalogging. It doesn't matter what the car was tuned for... it will be different on track day. I do this too.
c - real-time adjustment. You need to be able to do this. I had my a/f tuned _perfectly_ before bradenton. But at the track, the conditions were SO good that my a/f ratio was WAY off. So I adjusted it on the fly. See points a and b above for help.
d - knowledge is power (literally). An a/f of 11.5:1 today might mean 10:1 tomorrow or 13.5:1 on wed. bad, bad, bad. gotta know what is going on to be able to make adjustments. Anyone who just runs what they brung b/c it was tuned once, unless tuned EXTREMELY conservatively is playing with fire and (potentially) leaving power on the table.
e - boost is a good gauge to have on a blower car (less important on a turbo) b/c belts will slip. On my last run in bradenton, i reviewed the data-logging and the vid tape and saw the boost gauge jumping around a little. I checked the belt and it looked fine. I checked again b/c I didn't believe it was fine and i saw that it was not fine. wouldn't have noticed w/o the datalogging.
f - I know I'm a novice and have a lot to learn. And I know my driving needs help. So the more knowledge i can have going into things, the better off I am.
vipergts2000
Enthusiast
Girls, the smilies just aren't worth the effort on this site. All 4 of them are terrible, otherwise there would have been a smilie.
Shelby, touche. Girls, should I cry?
My post was funny. The only ones who got bent were Unltd racers (and Gerald, what a surprise). I annihilated the class in ONE race. Big deal. You guys will all be back with your top secret this and thats to take me down so what's the big deal? Get over it. The leader gets to have fun too.
As for guages, there was a boost guage Velcroed to my steering column that would slide off on turns. It was really cool. I'd personally suggest no guages and get it tuned by someone you don't have to worry about keeping an eye on. Especially on the street, running WOT (even on a blower car
Chad
I thought your quote was funny as hell....Bunch of haters if you ask me.
Gerald
Enthusiast
Girls, the smilies just aren't worth the effort on this site. All 4 of them are terrible, otherwise there would have been a smilie.
Shelby, touche. Girls, should I cry?
My post was funny. The only ones who got bent were Unltd racers (and Gerald, what a surprise). I annihilated the class in ONE race. Big deal. You guys will all be back with your top secret this and thats to take me down so what's the big deal? Get over it. The leader gets to have fun too.
As for guages, there was a boost guage Velcroed to my steering column that would slide off on turns. It was really cool. I'd personally suggest no guages and get it tuned by someone you don't have to worry about keeping an eye on. Especially on the street, running WOT (even on a blower car
Chad
cccmmmmmoooon "The Chad"....What a suprise? Chad, you, between the lines have been bashing other ppls setup for months. Trust us, we can all read between the lines. I'm sure most everyone feels like I do, I just make it a little more vocal. You see what you get. I don't have a problem with your TT's, your choice of Tuner, even your actions, or anything like that. Don't make it into that.... I think I talk for most everyone when I say your head has more HP than your engine. Nothing more annoying than swaping posts with an egomaniac, buddy.
It's not too late, come back to the living bro.
.. And I'll see you at the next run of the V10 nats Gerald
CHAD
Enthusiast
Gerald, do you have any recollection back when your car was considered fast and you were the "bike killer?" Take a look back at those posts. You were fit to be tied. It was Doug Levin this, SC that, and everything else didn't have a chance. Seriously, take a look back.
Well, there has been a changing of the guard. And I'm going to have fun. My post was intended to be funny but I understand the truth hurts, so I'll pepper my posts with Smilies from now on, even over here. You sure are sensitive for such a big MF'er.
Those of you that know me know I am extremely laid back and just having fun. That is what the boards are for me, a good time. See ya around.
Chad
Well, there has been a changing of the guard. And I'm going to have fun. My post was intended to be funny but I understand the truth hurts, so I'll pepper my posts with Smilies from now on, even over here. You sure are sensitive for such a big MF'er.
Those of you that know me know I am extremely laid back and just having fun. That is what the boards are for me, a good time. See ya around.
Chad
Damn, I was just trying to find out if there were any gauges that look like the factory ones. I had no idea there was so much hostility out there. I thought we were all driving the same cars. Reminds me of high school with the Ford vs. Chevy arguments. But I do want to thank the one or two legitimate posts.
2MANYTOYS
Enthusiast
Girls, the smilies just aren't worth the effort on this site. All 4 of them are terrible, otherwise there would have been a smilie.
Shelby, touche. Girls, should I cry?
My post was funny. The only ones who got bent were Unltd racers (and Gerald, what a surprise). I annihilated the class in ONE race. Big deal. You guys will all be back with your top secret this and thats to take me down so what's the big deal? Get over it. The leader gets to have fun too.
As for guages, there was a boost guage Velcroed to my steering column that would slide off on turns. It was really cool. I'd personally suggest no guages and get it tuned by someone you don't have to worry about keeping an eye on. Especially on the street, running WOT (even on a blower car
Chad
cccmmmmmoooon "The Chad"....What a suprise? Chad, you, between the lines have been bashing other ppls setup for months. Trust us, we can all read between the lines. I'm sure most everyone feels like I do, I just make it a little more vocal. You see what you get. I don't have a problem with your TT's, your choice of Tuner, even your actions, or anything like that. Don't make it into that.... I think I talk for most everyone when I say your head has more HP than your engine. Nothing more annoying than swaping posts with an egomaniac, buddy.
It's not too late, come back to the living bro.
Gerald
Well said!
2MANYTOYS
Enthusiast
We need to compare our setups next time we're together. I'm curious to see your Tensioner/belt setup. I would like to see what the differences between your Levin install and my Underground Racing install. Underground hasn't had to do any belt tightening on any of their blower cars. Mine has never been tightened as well. I know in Topeka you and I tightened yours numerous times. Their has got to be something UGR is doing different. Kevin explained the difference to me but I've forgotten.
P.S. How's the baby? PM me with an update.
Bandit400
Enthusiast
Get yourself a Boost and Fuel Pressure Gauge. The A/F is useless unless it is a wideband. I used the Ultra-Lite Autometer series because it closely matches the silver bezel and red needle on the stock gauges. These gauges are also full electric.
Bandit400
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Joseph Dell
Enthusiast
And on a purely unrelated note, I'm about to have an autometer phantom 1-15psi boost gauge that is _electric_ up forsale. Electric has a peak memory and a warning light. It is not only cool to have, but useful for runs when you can't look down at the dash. Oh yeah... and it has a data-logging out.
I'm getting rid of it b/c it only goes up to 15psi and i need one that does more.
If interested, drop me a note. It is the autometer 5776. See it at http://hp.autometer.com/products/phantom/full_sweep_electric/full_sweep_electric.html .
JD
I'm getting rid of it b/c it only goes up to 15psi and i need one that does more.
If interested, drop me a note. It is the autometer 5776. See it at http://hp.autometer.com/products/phantom/full_sweep_electric/full_sweep_electric.html .
JD
Joseph Dell
Enthusiast
gauge is sold! dang! i didn't expect it to go this fast. yowee.
JD
JD
Simms
Enthusiast
Bandit400, that guage pod looks like it fits pretty good. Do you know which one you used?
Gerald
Enthusiast
LOL!!! OK Chad, make something of nothing buddy.
It's not changing of the guards, in your case it's changing of the Gods.
You DON'T need a boost gauge on your steering column Chad, I'm sure a mirror would do just fine on your dash
The silk was special order.geeeeeeez man.
Cya bro
Gerald
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