Alternatives to Eibach Springs?
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Black Moon
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Check out Hyperco springs. Snake Oil Products uses them on their coil overs. Also, AFCO shocks has 2-5/8" springs but not sure of their ratings. Let us know what you find because I don't like my Eibachs at all. Way too bouncy in the rear.
Sal
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uvbnbit
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It also depends on how much $$$ you want to spend and the intended purpose...looks, track, handling, etc.
RobZilla
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Eibach-Pro-gressive Springs lower and stiffen the touring ride a bit, but the performance handling a lot. The spring is tapered...the more you push it, the more it fights back.
On your 2002, the OE Konis are ADJUSTABLE for rebound. I wonder if Black-Moon-Sal knew this? If you put the EPs on, and DONT stiffen the rebound, it gets too "bouncy." We have not had any complaints about EPs that I can ever recall.....{unless they were installed on bad, or non-adjusted shocks)
PS: Firmer is Stiffer; Bouncy is the opposite.....less stiff UK speeks a different english Im told!
The other brand mentioned does NOT offer progressive springs....but can be had 1" lower.
And there are Thin, forged SPRING CAPS to lower further, (or as an alternative) that do NOT require a spring change. It is optional.
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JonB~~~:<~
On your 2002, the OE Konis are ADJUSTABLE for rebound. I wonder if Black-Moon-Sal knew this? If you put the EPs on, and DONT stiffen the rebound, it gets too "bouncy." We have not had any complaints about EPs that I can ever recall.....{unless they were installed on bad, or non-adjusted shocks)
PS: Firmer is Stiffer; Bouncy is the opposite.....less stiff UK speeks a different english Im told!
The other brand mentioned does NOT offer progressive springs....but can be had 1" lower.
And there are Thin, forged SPRING CAPS to lower further, (or as an alternative) that do NOT require a spring change. It is optional.
Click My Profile if I can help.
JonB~~~:<~
thanks for the info Jon et al! have previously had the lowering caps from you, but considering lowering springs with orig caps back on + 19" wheels = maintaining current 1/2" lowered height, with the stiffer, prog spring rate improve performance on rare track outings and help keep the bigger radius tyres contacting the arch under extreme conditions!
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Black Moon
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Rebound adjustment on stock shocks?
Stiffen the rebound on the shock and it wont bounce so much.
Black Moon
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Thanks for the info Jon. I never did much in the way of research but was told they were an alternative.
With regards to mine, the previous owner put the Eibachs on stock shocks which is probably why it rides so poorly. When I recently replaced a blown front shock I noticed that the Eibachs have tighter coils at the top so I'm assuming they are progressive. I just wish there was a reasonably priced replacement shock for street use.
QUOTE=JonB - PartsRack;2903196]Eibach-Pro-gressive Springs lower and stiffen the touring ride a bit, but the performance handling a lot. The spring is tapered...the more you push it, the more it fights back.
On your 2002, the OE Konis are ADJUSTABLE for rebound. I wonder if Black-Moon-Sal knew this? If you put the EPs on, and DONT stiffen the rebound, it gets too "bouncy." We have not had any complaints about EPs that I can ever recall.....{unless they were installed on bad, or non-adjusted shocks)
PS: Firmer is Stiffer; Bouncy is the opposite.....less stiff UK speeks a different english Im told!
The other brand mentioned does NOT offer progressive springs....but can be had 1" lower.
And there are Thin, forged SPRING CAPS to lower further, (or as an alternative) that do NOT require a spring change. It is optional.
Click My Profile if I can help.
JonB~~~:<~[/QUOTE]
With regards to mine, the previous owner put the Eibachs on stock shocks which is probably why it rides so poorly. When I recently replaced a blown front shock I noticed that the Eibachs have tighter coils at the top so I'm assuming they are progressive. I just wish there was a reasonably priced replacement shock for street use.
QUOTE=JonB - PartsRack;2903196]Eibach-Pro-gressive Springs lower and stiffen the touring ride a bit, but the performance handling a lot. The spring is tapered...the more you push it, the more it fights back.
On your 2002, the OE Konis are ADJUSTABLE for rebound. I wonder if Black-Moon-Sal knew this? If you put the EPs on, and DONT stiffen the rebound, it gets too "bouncy." We have not had any complaints about EPs that I can ever recall.....{unless they were installed on bad, or non-adjusted shocks)
PS: Firmer is Stiffer; Bouncy is the opposite.....less stiff UK speeks a different english Im told!
The other brand mentioned does NOT offer progressive springs....but can be had 1" lower.
And there are Thin, forged SPRING CAPS to lower further, (or as an alternative) that do NOT require a spring change. It is optional.
Click My Profile if I can help.
JonB~~~:<~[/QUOTE]
RobZilla
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Correct. Take them off and follow the Koni instructions. Remove the rubber bumper and compress the shock all the way. COUNT the number of half turns it takes to get all the way stiff. I went three half turns away from full stiff and I have no "bouncy" complaint (with the suspension anyway).
RobZilla
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Go back to stock springs and a forged lowering cap as John suggested. You will still need to set all the shock firmness/stiffness to the same setting.
Black Moon
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Wait you're saying that OEM Mopar shocks are adjustable?
The Year Matters.
He stated the year/model of his Viper...2002 RT. There is really no "MoPar" shock...His car rides on OE Konis...and that generation was rebound-Adjustable.
Historic Trivia: Back in 1992, Koni took out full page ads, and gave distributors and some VOI-1 attendeed a poster of the Koni-equipped outrageous, new and rare Viper.
They called it "FOUR KONIs WITH EVERYTHING."
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Black Moon
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Well excuse me but someone jumped in and said they were adjustable... Mine's a 2003 and obviously not related to this thread.
I'll quietly excuse myself and leave you fine gentlemen alone.
I'll quietly excuse myself and leave you fine gentlemen alone.
Correct. Take them off and follow the Koni instructions. Remove the rubber bumper and compress the shock all the way. COUNT the number of half turns it takes to get all the way stiff. I went three half turns away from full stiff and I have no "bouncy" complaint (with the suspension anyway).
Black Moon's AVATAR shows a Gen 3.......but maybe he also has a G2? No Offense! This is a Gen 1-2 Forum, and we ASSumed ....... the O.P. asked a 2002 question and the answers flowed to that.
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viper067
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Going to install my Eibach's over the winter ... so is 3 half turns from back from stiff the appropriate setting for the shocks, year '94
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