Any Interest in a TWIN TURBO VIPER PACKAGE for under $ 20 Grand INSTALLED???

[Tom Welch]

Hello All,

We are looking for REALISTIC interest in the amount of Viper owners who would consider a INTERCOOLED TWIN TURBO package that generates approx 700 RWHP in daily drivable trim on any GEN 2(650 RWHP on GEN 1)Viper.

We have one car driving as a prototype, and another 2001 Viper that will be operational within the next two weeks.

We are looking to price this product at under $ 20,000.00 for the Stage 1 Twin Turbo system which will generate the horsepower numbers above without nitrous oxide injection.

This package price will include all parts, installation and round trip transportation to our facility for those Vipers that reside east of the Mississippi river.

I will be testing a more aggressive system which includes nitrous oxide/propane injection on my own Viper during the weeks to come and hope to offer a 1000 hp forced air induction package that is daily drivable at a reasonable price very soon.

Your feedback will help me determine if packages like these will open a new market segment for Viper owners.

Thanks for your feedback and comments..

Tom Http://btrviper.com

P.S. Please don't waste space on this topic by asking confidential questions..like who are my prototype customers. Those questions will fall upon deaf ears. Thanks for your understanding.

 

[Viperoctane]

thaaaats what I call excellent pricing !! Tom as usual you surprise us with your prices !! That package would be excellent !! Good Luck I ll be contacting you soon !!

 

[MichaelP]

WOW this is interesting from a well respected tuner.


You are saying under 20K.

Is it possible to do 18K for the stage 1 with the nitrous/propane injection with a Dyno slip of 1000 HP if we bring the car to you ourselves?

 

[Eddie N]

what kind of warranty comes with the package? is the 700 rwhp attainable on pump gas (91 octane specifically)?

what color underwear are you wearing? or is that confidential?

- eddie -

 

[Casey]

Very interested! The more under $20k, the more interested I will become!!

Interested in a warranty also?
Roll cage?

 

[SneakyPete]

Tom,

I Would be interested in Twin Turbo upgrade, Let me know if the NOS kit arrived for my install

Jay

 

[THEMASH]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MichaelP:

Is it possible to do 18K for the stage 1 with the nitrous/propane injection with a Dyno slip of 1000 HP if we bring the car to you ourselves?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


I will be next in line in this 18K for 1000hp deal.

 

[MES]

I know Tom appreciates honest answers so here are some of my thoughts.

If you had a TT kit available for $20K installed one or two years ago it would be one heck of a deal. Even today it's still decent. But when I consider that for $6-7K I can have one of these DIY supercharger kit's that's coming out, which will put high 500's to low 600's to the wheels (my best est) that TT for $20K seems less appealing. Also DLM can supercharge a car and put down nearly the same HP as the proposed TT for near the same price, and DLM rep is #1 when it come to this type of work. That's some tough competition. Another concern would be the reliability. Turbos seem to be more finicky than superchargers and more apt to have problems. There is also that TT DIY kit someone else is working on, I don't the know pricing but it sounds interesting. Add it all up and it becomes hard to decide what to do. How much would I be willing to pay for a TT installed given the above, don't know maybe $10-12K (call me cheap)

but for $20K I would pass. My .02 keep the change

 

[Chuck B 98 GTS]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Tom Welch:
P.S. Please don't waste space on this topic by asking confidential questions..like who are my prototype customers. Those questions will fall upon deaf ears. Thanks for your understanding.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Tom,
My lips are silent. Why not share with us the person driving the prototype so we can congratulate him and you. When you build such a car, you should brag about what you've done. I know I would!

Thanks in advance,
Chuck

 

[FRANK]

Well...this seems to be something new and in the making...and on the other hand Doug Levin's supercharged system is a few grand less and is proven to run like a ***** ape with the same horsepower numbers. Granted, Levin's price does not include shipping to and fro (I think) but with the cost of shipping, it is almost or same as the turbo installation. I know what Doug does to beef up the motor in addition to adding the supercharger and that impressed me. I don't know what other work to the motor that the turbo install will encompass but I sincerely doubt it will even come close to the cutom work that Doug performs. I also feel that there is a supercharger craze right now and the turbo kit may take a back seat at this particular time...just my 2 cents!

 

[Tom Welch]

Hello All,

Thanks for the responses..please keep em coming.

There are alot of exciting products that are being prototyped for Vipers from many different vendors. I look forward to purchasing some for my own car.

As for turbocharger vs. supercharger, well thats another one of those age old battles. I prefer the turbo. It robs no horsepower to make horsepower, no belts to break or maintain, they last virtually for ever, and to the contrary they are not finiky and do not require any special treatment. Think of how many different models of OEM vehicles are turbocharged instead of supercharged.

As for price structure. This kit will come in BELOW $ 20,000.00(should we elect to produce it)as installed. We are hoping for a price of approx. $ 17,800.00 as an Introductory Special for those customers who wish to deliver their own Vipers to us. BUT PLEASE DO NOT HOLD ME TO THIS!!

We will offer our Performance Guarantee and Performance Bond with our Twin Turbo Package. We expect to hold production times to LESS THAN ONE MONTH and will guarantee your completion date in writing. We feel that the performance numbers of this Stage 1 product will rival that of any tuner product in its price range.

As for warranty, there will be warranty from manufacturers of certain parts and we are working on some kind of warranty purchase program. Remember guys..these are RACING PARTS!

I will be testing Stage 2 and Stage 3 Twin Turbo Systems on my own Viper in the very near future. We expect to generate crazy amounts of horsepower and torque by adding our Nitrous Oxide and Propane Injection.

I hope to answer all of your questions here on this forum as time and testing proceed. I will have pics and dyno sheets to post soon.

Thanks,

Tom Http://btrviper.com

P.S. My underwear...what underwear. Heehee.