Y2K,
I agree with you this HP war is quickly nearing the end. It's GLOBAL WARMING, I think it's for real and so do a lot of other pretty smart folks. I think governments around the world are going to act and act quickly to try to reduce automotive emissions. I don't think we have the technology to build 600 HP green cars yet? New CAFE mileage requirements along with emission restrictions could be enacted quite soon.
I agree that the governments are gonna try to reduce automotive emissions . But I think that global warming due to our part is blown way out of portion. Ive done some research into it and will share some info so bare with me .......
The warming of our planet started thousands of years before SUVs began adding their spew to the greenhouse.
The North American ice sheets reached their largest expanse about 18,000 years ago and then began to recede. Within 5000 years they had pulled back considerably but still reached south as far as central Ohio. After another thousand years, however, the U.S. was largely ice-free.
Logic and chemistry say all CO2 is the same, whether it blows out of a Porsche tailpipe or is exhaled from Al Gore’s lungs or wafts off my compost pile or the rotting of dead plants in the Atchafalaya swamp.
Nature generates about 30 times as much CO2 as does man. Yet the warming worriers are unconcerned about nature’s outpouring.They are just worried about the 3.2 percent caused by humans.
They like to point fingers at the U.S., which generated about 23 percent of the world’s anthropogenic CO2 (caused by humans) in 2003, the latest figures from the Energy Information Administration. In fact, it’s a minor contributor to the greenhouse effect when water vapor is taken into consideration. All the greenhouse gases together, including CO2 and methane, produce less than two percent of the greenhouse effect, according to Richard S. Lindzen of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Lindzen, by the way, is described by one source as “the most renowned climatologist in all the world.”
When water vapor is put in that perspective, then anthropogenic CO2 produces less than 0.1 of one percent of the greenhouse effect.
If everyone knows that water vapor is the dominant greenhouse gas, why do Al Gore and so many others focus on CO2? Call it the politics of the possible. Water vapor is almost entirely natural. It’s beyond the reach of man’s screwdriver. But when the delegates of 189 countries met at Kyoto in December 1997 to discuss global climate change, they could hardly vote to do nothing. So instead, they agreed that the developed countries of the world would reduce emissions of six man-made greenhouse gases. At the top of the list is CO2, a trivial influence on global warming compared with water vapor, but unquestionably man’s largest contribution.
In deciding that it couldn’t reduce water vapor, Kyoto really decided that it couldn’t reduce global warning.
As for the BS of CAFE .... . It does nothing to reduce fuel consumption short term . Because the standards only affect vehicles yet to be made. By making driving less expensive it will encourage more driving . I will drive more with a more fuel effecient SUV. CAFE laws do nothing to foster public transit . The Cafe laws put the entire burden of fuel and CO2 conservation on cars and ignore the industry sources , home energy use , airlines , agriculture , trucking ,locomotives ect. Americas total energy consumption is about 100 quadrillion BTU's in 2005 . the vehicles affected by CAFE only account for 18 percent of that total. CAFE puts the burden on the automakers to make vehicles people don't necessarily want.
A run of 800-1000 08 Vipers = 500-600 garage queens 20 years from now.
Who could ever keep the 2008 in thier garage for that long and hopefully they do so by then I can buy a fresh one after mine is worn out
I agree. Regardless of whats underneath the skin, it needs more than slapping on a new hood from a styling point of view. The 600 hp number is kinda cool for magazine bragging rights and benchracing, but there have been 600 to 1600 hp vipers around for a while, just not from the factory!! I am hoping that the 08 it will at least shut up the Zo6 owners for a lil bit though haha
Kind of cool for bragging rights are you kidding me its in amongst cars that are worth 5 times as much ........ You can upgrade a neon to have 1000 hp but its still a neon . This is 600 HP from the factory ,backed by dodge, so if anything goes wrong (which it probably won't ) take it to the Viper tech and will be fixed under warranty .
. Don't we elect the people for these positions.
They are making all time record profits in the history of the world but lets have all of the people drive little sh t boxes like a toyota precis(spelling?)and the politicians continue along in their limos and private jets. Gas jumped today from 2.95 to 3.18 what a bunch of sh t.
