Best brake pads with the least dust?

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4) I did not do any slower speed-to-lock up testing today, but from the feel I got I think I might have stumbled on to the last piece of the non-ABS braking puzzle - the passenger front locking up first. At the same time as the brakes I installed Aldan adjustable coilovers on the car. One of the many reasons I did this was because the car sat lower on the driver's rear. I have the spring perch on the rear driver's 7/8" higher than the passenger side and now have the driver's side wheel arch about 1/4" higher than the passenger side while the driver's side frame rail is still just slightly lower than the passenger side. OK long story but what I think I have done is rock the car on the driver's front-to-passenger rear axis effectively putting more weight on the passenger front which gives it a bit more bite and I am guessing that when I do some lock up testing I will get both front at the same time (could STILL use more to the rear I think even with Tom's 40mm caliper mod).

You should get the car properly scaled. Originally car was pivoting on the front left and rear right. You raised the rear left. While this may have reduced the front right lockup (in slow speeds), ideally the front right should have been raised. The current balance of your car is not optimum.

If you don't have access to scales I would set the rear left perch back to stock and raise the front right perch. But not too much. 7/8" is a lot.
 

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If you can find some or borrow some, scales are the right way to finish the job. They are ~$1100 or so, and I know it is a *** of money to spend on something you'll only use once.

Regarding brake balance - if you are like me, you let off the brake when you hear or feel the first tire skidding. (Aaack - flat spots!) That means there were three other tires still rolling and capable of further braking. With poor side-to-side balance you are limiting your performance to that of the worst case tire. If you balance the fronts side-to-side, you can push on the pedal harder (duh) which will apply front brakes more, also apply rear brakes more, and by slowing down faster, throw more weight forward. With more weight forward, there is less weight on the rear, so the front-to-rear balance may be closer to about right after all.

When you put on slicks, this front weight shift increases further. The sticky tires will allow you to push harder yet, lightening the rear more. Now you're in braking nirvana, getting all four to slither simultaneously at impending lockup... ~~ shivers~~
 

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I just put on Hawk HPS pads in the front with new slotted rotors. I REALLY LIKE THESE PADS! No more squeaky brakes at stops, and they grab great (better them stock pads). They also seem to be a lot better with dust, but with white wheels I don't think there's a perfect "no-dust" pad. Maybe I'll try some of that wheel wax I saw someone post about on here a while back.

Good luck,
Cal :hitfan:
 

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I have had Tom's caliper upgrade along EBC rotors and Hawk HPS pads in for about 3 months now. For me the difference is night and day! With the new calipers - my Viper seems to squat when stopping - very little nose dive - and it stops on a dime. I did do a complete flush with DOT 4 of the old brake fluid as well which I'm sure also helps with pedal feel. I can take it right to threshold easily and can even feel the slots in the rotors when braking. Dust is much better with the HPS pads - not completely dustless - but a lot better than the stock pads.

Phoenix - quote; "3) Even with Tom's 40mm rear caliper upgrade, the inboard area of where the rear pad contacts the rotor has still not completely scrubbed off the cad plating - even after 15 or so miles of regular slow driving and three hard brakes from 80-100 mph down to about 30 mph."

I noticed the same thing - but more of the inner portion will wear with more time.

For me if I could do it all over again - I would go with the same exact combination!
 

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with my set up would you go wiith the Porterfield R4S pads or the Brakeman pads?
I think if you do not mind putting up with lots of dust, and maybe some low pressure braking squealing, you should always go with stock pads. If the dust is just too much to deal with the Porterfield seems to be a reasonable compromise.
 
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with my set up would you go wiith the Porterfield R4S pads or the Brakeman pads?
I think if you do not mind putting up with lots of dust, and maybe some low pressure braking squealing, you should always go with stock pads. If the dust is just too much to deal with the Porterfield seems to be a reasonable compromise.
Oh no can't have alot of dust and squeeling. I just bought the CCW 505 A's lol. Looks like i'll be ordering the Porterfield R4S pads today!
Thanks for all your help guys!
 

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I picked up the Hawk HPS brake pads and EBC Rotors at:

www.ajusa.com

Cost for front pads - $98.97
Rears - $77.97

Front EBC Rotors - $270.87 (pair)
Rear rotors - $178.87

Free shipping. Decent delivery from west coast to midwest.

Good Luck!
 

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Ok, I am looking for the opposite. Want a pad that can stand up to the track but could care less about dust. Have a StopTech front setup. Have tried the included Axxis Ultimates (roasted them on the track) and the StopTech Club race pads (also overheated at the track). Was told the Club Race pads are the same as the BM #3's. Is there any of the Hawk / PF pads that would work. Easy modulation is a priority..

Thanks
 

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Ok, I am looking for the opposite. Want a pad that can stand up to the track but could care less about dust. Have a StopTech front setup. Have tried the included Axxis Ultimates (roasted them on the track) and the StopTech Club race pads (also overheated at the track). Was told the Club Race pads are the same as the BM #3's. Is there any of the Hawk / PF pads that would work. Easy modulation is a priority..

Thanks

After years of spending $$$ going through pads I finally found a setup that last and stops like a ****.

I have Stoptech fronts and a special Tom caliper in the rear. I run PFC01 up front and Hawk blue in the rear. Very happy with this setup.
 

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I have green pads.
No dust no noise.
They stop the car as well as I need to on the street.

I didn't know they changed them.
 

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