Yes, I am aware of that..... while I did not go to VOI X, I saw all of the posts that they (Dodge) were trimming the fat and that meant the Viper line was going to go. The conversation that I had with these guys just adds credence to the fact that if they are closing CAAP next year, the Viper as we know it will change forever. It seems that unless something happens quickly, then the Viper is going to stop being built for at least 5-10 of years while they a. find a company to sell to b. redevelop the Viper c. find a factory to build the Viper. So, if I were to hypothesize, I would guess that after next year you will not see a new Viper until mid 20-teens, perhaps even 2020.