Sorry guys had to hit the bank as i said if the owner wants i will call EVAN SMITH and HAVE THE CAR tested,inspected,run at ENGLISHTOWN AND PUT IN mOPAR Performance under the true stipulation that we have a mid 9 second Viper trapping mid 140s on motor alone.Please have the OWNER e mail me so i can inturn call Evan.Personally whay i am curious about tjhat no one has addressed is the amount of power needed to trap 146.
Dynoed my Viper today 612 RWHP 619 RWTQ! 91 pump gas!
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Greg as a tuner will you state publically then you are 100 sure that this car optained a trap speed of 146 mph on motor alone.
Ted you stated 600 to the tires well thats 750 to the flywheel They are claiming their car is trapping 7 mph FASTER than you run but you have a blower on a worked motor they have no power adders.
Wait so now you are claiming a low 10 second run on Pilots as well -street tires.Man i got to see this.
Viper4Christ
Enthusiast
Oh sakes alive what is the point of these useless threads? Really...
Just wanted to make sure you saw my post about being there to witness the passes mayself and how you can get a fast number and lower MPH at the same time...who'd a thought?
Hennessey ran 10.70's in the 130's with their 08 car with headers/exhaust/intake/tune. I think they still have the video on their site or you can look it up on youtube.
Just wanted to make sure you saw my post about being there to witness the passes mayself and how you can get a fast number and lower MPH at the same time...who'd a thought?
Hennessey ran 10.70's in the 130's with their 08 car with headers/exhaust/intake/tune. I think they still have the video on their site or you can look it up on youtube.
Bullet488
Enthusiast
Street tires? Not sure where you got that? We like to go fast and don't run the car on pilots. I'm not claiming to have run anything other than what I can prove which is 9.48 at 145+ mph on slicks. Hell, I can bog the car, hit the rev-limiter and still hit 9's.
We've done it many times, at many public events and with many spectators. The car runs on 28" ET Streets and usually sixty foots in the 1.3-1.4s. Stock clutch, hydraulic cam, CNC'd GenII cylinder heads.... It even has A/C and a CD player.
The car is setup, well built, tuned perfectly and driven to it's potential.
Nothing more..
Just talked to EVAN SMITH .LETS GET HER INSPECTED AND TESTED.This should be no problem esp sice MCMullen Argus is moving ALL their offices to Tampa (Bradaton will be their new home track)in July .Once again should this cars times be verifyed i will be the first to come on here and state publically i was wrong Please have the owner Email me and let me know if he will participate .
Bullet488
Enthusiast
One last note.. Just to be clear..
You referenced a DLM, HMS and the now defunct TNT as your guidelines to 1/4 potential?
Since when have these been the benchmarks for what can be accomplished on the dragstrip? AND street tires on 9 second cars? Why?
I've personally driven at least 10 modified vipers on the dragstrip - RT/10, GTS, twin turbo, supercharged, nitrous fed and naturally aspirated. You say "if you have ever raced a Viper in your life you would know its impossible".... I say that you are living in a bubble (and 10 years in the past), IF you think that Don Nase's N/A viper or Dan Black's early production DLM centrifugal car is apples to apples to Norm's LPE build.
99 R/T 10
Enthusiast
SHOW UP To The NEXT VIPER EVENT, SEE For YOURSELF! YOU CAN BRING EVAN SMITH Along TO0!
Then there should be no problem getting here tested then Talk is cheap
Greg Good Cylinder Heads
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I'm not speaking as a tuner, because I'm not one.
The car has the best of everything. No expense spared. Lingenfelter is one of the best engine builders in the country.
No, I did not tear the car down looking for nitrous. I will reiterate that that car does not need nitrous to those numbers.
It's a 542 with over 12:1 compression, a big cam, open headers, etc. etc. A really good heads/cam/headers car will go over 130 on pump gas. Why is 145 on Norm's car so surprising?
Iam offering a road test here.Lets not have everyone answer for the owner.
Because Evan said so.
Alexarz
Enthusiast
Good God, that 1Bad GTS dude is a yapping washer woman, if ever there was one. The facts are facts and.....................
YOU GOT OWNED!!!
Good work, Vipeuup. You really kicked the **** out of the troll who has been pestering this forum for quite some time now.
YOU GOT OWNED!!!
Good work, Vipeuup. You really kicked the **** out of the troll who has been pestering this forum for quite some time now.
Just being real with that dillusional troll.
Basically professional drag racer Don Nase was running the same motor build as this and myself=BEST of everything. only it was a small stroker 510 .Big cam,12.1 open headers.His interior was gutted ect he trapped in the 136-137 range.If you look at the 9 second time sheet he picked up 30 mph back 8th mile =serious power in the easy 800 plus range which equal to most forced induction cars out there.Greg to put these numbers in perspective the FULL BLOWN GTSR ENGINES were aroung 800 hp.DRY SUMPTED,13 to one compression ,Solid cam ind throttle body intake.A stock intake will not flow to get near that power level.
Alex you never get your ass kicked because you HIDE behind the computer
99 R/T 10
Enthusiast
Yeah, let's look at this. Some guy(you) doesn't believe TXWYD's(Norm's) car is capable of 9's, so you're offering him the chance to bring his car to you to prove it..................... Do I have that right? 
I would think he might consider to "prove" it if there was a 3-5 page spread in several National magazines, but not to an everyday schmuck, but let's see if he chimes in
(Pssssssst, not going happen)....................................
I would think he might consider to "prove" it if there was a 3-5 page spread in several National magazines, but not to an everyday schmuck, but let's see if he chimes in
(Pssssssst, not going happen)....................................Because your dillusional Z06 lover.
99 R/T 10
Enthusiast
Um *Conan O' Brien voice* "in the year 2000aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnndddddddddddddd is not 2007. Um, think the might be a bit more power made by these cars in 7 years??????? Just thinkin
Now, welcome to 2009
Oreca built motors are for endurance. Not for big power like Norman's. *****
*** your kidding right .
These are the facts my old GTS never lost in competition(4 STRAIGHT MOPAR NAT TITLES .Car ran against the best of the best modded cars engine only class.It is currently owned by the EX NAT PRES of or club ) was featured in MUSCLE MUSTANG and Fast Ford in a shootout that involved the FASTEST TRUE STREET CARS IN THE NY Metro area.THE CAR WAS DRIVEN BY SOME OF THE best DRIVERs IN THE COUNTRY on one of the fastest tracks there is (E-TOWN )and never came near the numbers you guys are pushing.(HUNDREDS of HORSEPOWER AWAY NA-MOTOR to Motor ) Where were thses 9 second cars when i was competiting all those years I think i have the right to be skeptical .To prove my point i called the editor of the largest dedicated Mustang Mag in the country to see if he would feature it in a test and article in his MOPAR mag.The answer was yes.-provided it checks out Lets get it on.Yeah, let's look at this. Some guy(you) doesn't believe TXWYD's(Norm's) car is capable of 9's, so you're offering him the chance to bring his car to you to prove it..................... Do I have that right?
I would think he might consider to "prove" it if there was a 3-5 page spread in several National magazines, but not to an everyday schmuck, but let's see if he chimes in
Plum i realize what your saying but between myself and Nace we also spent big dollars.If the guy took a full blown Oreca Motor at 125 grand and put it in the car its doubtful that could achieve these numbers.That Oreca engine was flat out the most powerful NA MOTOR ever ran in the Viper for many different reasons.GTSR BLOCK .DRY SUMP OILING.OVER 13 TO 1 COMPR.SOLID RACE CAM. 10 THROTTLE BODY INTAKE.(INTAKE alone worth like 75 horsepower over a stock Viper and was close to 15 grand )OPEN HEADER.GTSR RACE HEADS. Motec race controller.If you look back (and you can call Doug Levin directly to verify this )i set up the test of Danny Blacks DLM stage 2 plus that car was over 750 to the tire and could not run near a 146 mph trap.-running 8lbs boost.Ask Doug what his stage 3 Cars are trapping at i bet its in the high 140 range.
