Gen 1 vs Gen 2 60 mph roll test today...Road fun in Virginia!

[George Murray]

I ran my yellow 95 against my buddy's gray/silver stripes '00 ACR today. Three highway rolls, all from 60. One lower speed roll, from 30 MPH.

Interesting results.

First 60 roll, we were both in 3rd gear. RT/10 in the lead by half a car length through about 100, then we shifted, and ACR went half a car ahead. No further gain, but we backed off around 120.

Second 60 roll, both cars in 4th gear. RT/10 ahead from the get-go the whole time, by about a car length max when we hit 120 and both backed off.

Third 60 roll, both cars in 3rd gear, ACR ahead from the get-go, half a car by 100, RT/10 gained almost all of that when he shifted to 4th, then I shifted and he maintained half a car through 120.

Last roll, 30 MPH, ACR lept ahead immediately half a car length, pulled a wee bit more ahead of that by 80. Almost a full car ahead when we backed off at that speed.

ACR bone stock except for ripper shifter, just flipped 10K miles. RT/10 stock except for smooth hoses/K&Ns, ripper shifter, 51K miles. Both cars full of gas, drivers weigh within 10 LBs. RT/10 *******, but V-MANIA windows (Love 'em Biff!) installed. Temperature 50 dgrees.

I don't know what to make of this, but it was fun. Real world, no lights or timers, no $ at stake.

Anyway, that daggon creampuff is faster than it was when he got it a year ago. Last spring when he had less than 3K miles, the RT/10 waxed him three for three from 70 rolls. I expect he'll regularly clobber the RT/10 as he gets more mileage on the clock.

Next we're going to run the creampuff ACR against our 99 GTS that has over 30K miles. I think we'll bet lunch on that.

Oh yeah...quiet road, no traffic, no deer jumping in front of us, reconnaissance car (71 'Cuda 'vert with 526 cube wedge, 550 rwhp, 3.54 Dana...yes, naturally, a Mopar!) over a mile ahead trolling for bogeys (John Law), in comms via NEXTEL 2-way. Yeah, we'll run the 'Cuda when the owner stops running his mouth and accepts our offers...

Speed is life!

 

[Newport Viper]

Almost as good as s**. This was like reading Viper Forum!

 

[George Murray]

Yellow '95...great choice!

Yeah I've got the blonde cup holder, too. Older than yours (74 model), but great struts at 6'!

Mopar to ya, G

 

[MES]

Sounds like fun, hehe

I would say the reason your older RT was so close was because of the low RPM. Starting in say 3rd at 60MPH would be about 3,000 RPM I would expect both cars to be making the same power at 3,000. Both engines are probably close to the same HP/TQ through 4,500-4,800 RPM's Had you started in 1st at say a 25MPH roll, then ran both up through the optimum shift points the GTS should smoke you! What might be interesting to see would be a Gen I & Gen II dyno graph overlaid on top of one another to see the differences, anyone?

 

[SMCBUILDERSINC]

Well, on Saturday afternoon my buddy in his 95 yellow rt decided to line up with my 99 rt . We both have smooth tubes and k&n filters. The 95 has about 30k miles on it and my 99 had about 10k miles on the clock.

We both nailed it at a roll from 2500 in first. We both were spinning and dead even, then the 99 hooked at the end of first and I began to pull away. A shift to 2nd and I left him in the dust. I pulled about a full car length in 2nd gear. The only reason it was that close was b/c we were both spinning.


Then we both hit it in third at about 3000 rpm. The 99 pulled consistanly the whole time. I would figure about a car length per gear.

I guess the creampuffs are really creampuffs.

 

[Sniper]

I raced my friends 00 R/T 10 with my 94. From 60 mph to about 130 mph in 2nd gear we both raced 3 or 4 times. I pulled him about 1 1/2 to 2 cars each time. But I've got all new exhaust and Vec1 on my car. His was stock. We also raced from a 45 mph roll and same result-80 mph roll and same result...

 

[JonB]

The 11th Axiom:


"He who shall installeth 3.55 rearend shall kicketh gluteus maximi"

Go, my son, and spin no more............