Gen 2 Edelbrock headers

[paulsgts]

Has anyone had luck with Edelbrock headers? They are about half the price as most of the other brands including Bellenger. I am a firm believer on you pay for what you get but that's not entirely true all the time.

thanks
Paul

 

[Martin]

I know of a lot of people with them and they seem like very high quality items. In CA, they are pretty much the only thing you can put on a street car and still pass the visual smog test, so there are a lot of them out there. As far as dyno tests, they seem to be right up there with all the others. From what I've seen in person, they look really nice, too.

 

[rt/10stew]

I was looking at them also after seeing them listed on *bay. I could not find any specs on them but I did find them on the Edelbrock website listed for $604.71. here is the link Edelbrock Performance Products, Sportswear and Accessories - Dodge Viper

 

[hemihead]

Why do you suppose they won't fit creampuff motors?

 

[rt/10stew]

Why do you suppose they won't fit creampuff motors?

That is what I was trying to find out. I thought the only difference was the cam and the pistons? I would buy them now but I need to find out if they will fit on my 01.

 

[GTSDave]

Is that the price per pair!? Seems flaming cheap!

 

[hemihead]

That is what I was trying to find out. I thought the only difference was the cam and the pistons? I would buy them now but I need to find out if they will fit on my 01.

I'm with you RT/10stew. I'm installing Random Cats and Corsa as we speak. A nice set of headers would finish the deal, I really wanted Bellangers but now is not the time $ wise.

 

[1BADGTS]

Worked EXTREMELY WELL ON MY 96 GTS 11.2 at close to 132 NA on Pump gas STOCK TIRES.

 

[Viper #53]

Edelbrock has reduced their Viper header price on a holiday blow out sale. I purchased mine for around $650 on their webstore. Too good for me to pass up.

 

[rt/10stew]

Edelbrock has reduced their Viper header price on a holiday blow out sale. I purchased mine for around $650 on their webstore. Too good for me to pass up.

What year is your viper?

Thanks Stew

 

[JonB]

Might as well install 2000-02 Take-Offs

 

[plumcrazy]

for that kinda pricing, you can buy a set every other year and still be ahead.... personally, id go for it and see what happens.

 

[rt/10stew]

Might as well install 2000-02 Take-Offs

What are you trying to say Jon?

 

[Fatboy 18]

Could be wrong here, but I believe up to 2000 the Vipers had a cast header system that was not exactly fantastic, Then in 2000 Dodge changed the Design to a tubular header which allowed the gases to flow better
So I guess the Edelbrock Headers would be good for early year cars but of not much gain to later year cars

Mark


It would be nice to know the BHP figures?

 

[rt/10stew]

Could be wrong here, but I believe up to 2000 the Vipers had a cast header system that was not exactly fantastic, Then in 2000 Dodge changed the Design to a tubular header which allowed the gases to flow better
So I guess the Edelbrock Headers would be good for early year cars but of not much gain to later year cars

Mark


It would be nice to know the BHP figures?

Thanks Mark. I guess I will wait until spring time and go for the B&B'S

Stew

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

This part is a little unnerving.

Requires Cutting and Welding for installation

I'm also not crazy about that collector. Looks like they just smashed the tubes into it. But I gotta admit $600 is hard to pass up.

 

[Fatboy 18]

This part is a little unnerving.


I'm also not crazy about that collector. Looks like they just smashed the tubes into it. But I gotta admit $600 is hard to pass up.

I reckon they mean where the headers meet the Cats or No Cats? You may have to weld on a fitting?

Mark

 

[Neil - UK]

Thanks Mark. I guess I will wait until spring time and go for the B&B'S

Stew

watch out for them B&B's a viper friend in my village had a set from Roe Racing a few years ago, first set turned up x2 left hand headers.. sent back.. second arrived and was already corroding and the were poorly put together as the angles were wrong, luckily he was in the trade and got them bent into the correct positions.

Not what you want when the shipping charges are fairly big and they arent a cheap item, and youve got car stripped down on the drive

Hopefully they have improved since

 

[rt/10stew]

watch out for them B&B's a viper friend in my village had a set from Roe Racing a few years ago, first set turned up x2 left hand headers.. sent back.. second arrived and was already corroding and the were poorly put together as the angles were wrong, luckily he was in the trade and got them bent into the correct positions.

Not what you want when the shipping charges are fairly big and they arent a cheap item, and youve got car stripped down on the drive

Hopefully they have improved since

Thanks Neil. Good to know. This is the first time I have heard of anything negative about the B&B headers.

Thanks Stew

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

I reckon they mean where the headers meet the Cats or No Cats? You may have to weld on a fitting?

Mark

You reckon? Ok, who gave the Brit the cowboy hat?

Anyway, take a look at the pic in the link. The five tubes flatten out going into the collector. Just doesn't look right to me.

 

[rt/10stew]

You reckon? Ok, who gave the Brit the cowboy hat?

Anyway, take a look at the pic in the link. The five tubes flatten out going into the collector. Just doesn't look right to me.

More like the cowboy stole it from us Brits.

 

[Fatboy 18]

You reckon? Ok, who gave the Brit the cowboy hat?

Anyway, take a look at the pic in the link. The five tubes flatten out going into the collector. Just doesn't look right to me.

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My Summer Hillbilly hat and Snake Skin Boots too

In the Winter I go Skiing wearing a Black Stetson which I purchased from Sheplers in Denver

 

[JonB]

This part is a little unnerving.


I'm also not crazy about that collector. Looks like they just smashed the tubes into it. But I gotta admit $600 is hard to pass up.

EXACTLY! First set I saw was at a FLA VCA event in 96....Dave Ivlar had a set on his bench, and ALL Viper headers were cast manifolds when the Edelbrock was designed. A 4-tube collector was off-the-shelf adapted to 5 small primaries, and they looked squished-restrictive. And they get HOTTTT. They have NOT changed design since their initial release in 1995-6. And they are no better than 2000+ OE "Mopar race headers" available for about $200.....

 

[Martin]

You reckon? Ok, who gave the Brit the cowboy hat?

Anyway, take a look at the pic in the link. The five tubes flatten out going into the collector. Just doesn't look right to me.

That's funny - I work with guys from the UK and Australia all the time, and I hear them say 'reckon' all the time. I think we may have actually gotten that from the English before we got the heck out of there

Those collectors are either really weird, or a really good design - I haven't ever looked at the innards. Also, I can't figure (reckon) whether the collector is a 3" or 2.5" - but I haven't searched the part number much. All I know is I've seen a few and they look really nice and sound good. Supposedly they're easy to install with that strange looking mating flange in the middle of the main tubes. For $600 if I were looking to put headers on my GTS I'd be all over them. Best deal I ever saw on those over the last ten years was about $1000 used.

 

[PhoenixGTS]

I usually chime in when there is a post about the Edlebrock headers. When I bought my car used it had a set on it. The mid-flanges (the ones discussed above that are in the middle of the header tubes) were warped horribly and had blown out the gaskets. I've known the Belangers for years and live pretty close to their shops so I had Lou redo my whole system. When you put a straight edge on the mid-flanges of the old Edelbrocks one of them had more than a 1/8" of warp. The leak had caused hot exhaust gases to leak out and melt the fresh air box. Could have been from huge exhaust gas temps from the nitrous kit a pervious owner had on the car, but who knows. Just sayin'

I ended up selling the headers for $500 with full disclosure to someone who was going to cut the mid-flanges flat. Our guess was that since they had already moved so much, they would be stable after the flanges were cut flat again.

 

[Chuck 98 RT/10]

More like the cowboy stole it from us Brits.

Ok, I've been corrected twice. I'm wrong. What the hell do I know? I vacation in Asia, not Europe.

 

[Fatboy 18]

Mark

 

[Mad Max 93 RT10]

I was looking at them also after seeing them listed on *bay. I could not find any specs on them but I did find them on the Edelbrock website listed for $604.71. here is the link Edelbrock Performance Products, Sportswear and Accessories - Dodge Viper

Those were $1400 a couple weeks ago!!!

 

[ACELLR8]

I have had the Edelbrock Headers on my Gen I for 6 years now and am very happy with them.

I can assure you that they will make more hp than the factory shorty ones. I tried several combinations and the factory shorty ones were one, they yielded no HP gains over the stock cast manifolds on the Gen I, while the Edelbrock headers alone picked up 22 RWHP.

I have not had any major issues, except one side the collector gasket blew out and I changed it about 30 minutes with a new one. I also had the headers coated and they still look good as well.

I think for $600 you will not be disappointed and can't go wrong at all. This is a real account experience with these headers with no other Motivations like selling you more expensive ones.

One note, I am not sure why it is stated they would not fit the creampuffs as I bet they would. Maybe some one else with real experience could chime in on that.

 

[Catwood]

I never once had an issue with passing CA Smog with belanger's on my old 2000. I'd say it was tested by at least 4 different shops if not 5 over the time I and the next owner had it.