Gen III Wheels on my GEN II - Questions

[rcdice]

I've found bits and pieces of info on this issue, but if someone in the know could just lay it out for me, that would be great. I've already purchased a set of OEM 10 spoke wheels off an 05 from a fellow VCA member. Looking to put these on my 01 RT/10 w/ the new Michelin PSS's. Here are my questions:

1. These should mount up directly with no spacers or extra work needed, right?
2. Can I use the lug nuts that held my OEM Gen II wheels?
3. Will the center caps from the Gen II wheels fit the Gen III?
4. If I decide to purchase new center caps, who has the best price? (VPA, Partsrack or ?)
5. Any problem using the slightly wider 285/35-18 on the front vs. 275's?
6. With the slightly taller rear wheels at 19" vs. 18" how much will my speedo be off? Will read about 2 mph low I think. I do have 3.33 gears in the car but also already have a speedo re-calc box to fix that.
7. Anything special needed for the valve stems? Wheels have none now. If I take them to a competent tire guy, should they have everything needed or is there anything special needed for these wheels.

That's it, only seven questions! Thanks in advance for any input.

 

[FLX109]

1. yes
2. yes
3.no
4.partsrack
5.no
6. no noticeable difference at least I do not.
7.any will work

 

[99 R/T 10]

#3 is incorrect. The Gen II caps from a 99-02 will fit into the Gen 3 wheels.

 

[gtsfe21]

I have the Gen 3 10 spokes on my 02 GTS and they needed no spacers, used my Gen 2 lug nuts and center caps. Those rims will make your car look totally different. One of the best "upgrades" for a Gen 2. IMO.

 

[FLX109]

#3 is incorrect. The Gen II caps from a 99-02 will fit into the Gen 3 wheels.

You are right as #3 is half incorrect as Gen II 96, 97, & 98 centercaps will not fit.
sorry about that.

 

[99 R/T 10]

You are right as #3 is half incorrect as Gen II 96, 97, & 98 centercaps will not fit.
sorry about that.

Ok, I will give ya "half-incorrect"...................................

 

[rcdice]

I have the Gen 3 10 spokes on my 02 GTS and they needed no spacers, used my Gen 2 lug nuts and center caps. Those rims will make your car look totally different. One of the best "upgrades" for a Gen 2. IMO.

Thanks all for the input. Just the answers I was hoping for.

Yeah, I've never loved the OEM wheels that came on the later Gen II's. I've considered a lot of aftermarket options over the years but never really locked into anything. Need new tires this Spring, found a good deal on these wheels, so figured now was the time.

 

[Voodoo Rob]

Have the same Gen 3 wheels on my 97. Easy change over. All answers correct. The lugnuts from 96-98 are not chrome capped so I bought replacement chrome for a Cherokee, they have the correct "seat" to torque the wheel if you need to replace your stock chrome cap 99-02 lugnuts.

 

[Batboy]

I have Gen IV wheels which I believe are the same dimensions (18x10 and 19x13). Assuming the preceeding is correct then...

1. Yes, no spacers
2. Yes, same lug nuts
3. I have a '99 and yes those center caps fit
4. I'd go with Jon B. (PR), but those things are expensive. Find a wrecked one and get those if you can.
5. Nope, have the same tires on mine
6. At 150mph does it really matter? I haven't noticed a difference, but in my truck I went up 2" and it was about 4mph at 70mph. It gets bigger as you go faster though, so it might be 8mph at 140mph.
7. Nothing special but ask for chrome stems. Makes a big difference.

I've found bits and pieces of info on this issue, but if someone in the know could just lay it out for me, that would be great. I've already purchased a set of OEM 10 spoke wheels off an 05 from a fellow VCA member. Looking to put these on my 01 RT/10 w/ the new Michelin PSS's. Here are my questions:

1. These should mount up directly with no spacers or extra work needed, right?
2. Can I use the lug nuts that held my OEM Gen II wheels?
3. Will the center caps from the Gen II wheels fit the Gen III?
4. If I decide to purchase new center caps, who has the best price? (VPA, Partsrack or ?)
5. Any problem using the slightly wider 285/35-18 on the front vs. 275's?
6. With the slightly taller rear wheels at 19" vs. 18" how much will my speedo be off? Will read about 2 mph low I think. I do have 3.33 gears in the car but also already have a speedo re-calc box to fix that.
7. Anything special needed for the valve stems? Wheels have none now. If I take them to a competent tire guy, should they have everything needed or is there anything special needed for these wheels.

That's it, only seven questions! Thanks in advance for any input.

 

[NI-KA]

GEN IV 6 spokes powder coated, Yes I know this said GEN III but why limit yourself to GEN III only

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[overzealous1]

^ havn't seen that combo yet, looks sharp!

 

[Jack B]

Verfiy which tire, most of the Gen II's are 26 inches, the 345 X 19 is 27.6, that is a 6% diff in speed.

 

[John N]

ditto on the recommendation to consider gen IV wheels. The 6 spokes are much lighter and once were very reasonable ($1500/set). Haven't priced them lately.

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[NI-KA]

My '97 with the 6 spokes is running INVO rear 345 30 19 and front 275 35 18. There is a speed difference. Roughly 5 MPH. I have a GPS so if I really want to monitor speed I just turn that on. Mostof the time I just keep in mind the speed difference. Also have the Sneaky Pete GEN II center caps. I can't comment on if the were early or late GEN II center caps since I got the car used with a set of GEN III 10 spokes.

Yes, the 6 spokes are very light compared to alot of the GEN III and GEN IV wheels.

 

[JohnnyViper]

i have the same tires and gen 3 6 spoke and I have no noticeable speed different when checked with my gps, i confirmed my gps was accurate by checking the speed in my stock honda....may want to check your gps on a stock vehicle just to confirm your viper is off

My '97 with the 6 spokes is running INVO rear 345 30 19 and front 275 35 18. There is a speed difference. Roughly 5 MPH. I have a GPS so if I really want to monitor speed I just turn that on. Mostof the time I just keep in mind the speed difference. Also have the Sneaky Pete GEN II center caps. I can't comment on if the were early or late GEN II center caps since I got the car used with a set of GEN III 10 spokes.

Yes, the 6 spokes are very light compared to alot of the GEN III and GEN IV wheels.

 

[moparracing]

ditto on the recommendation to consider gen IV wheels. The 6 spokes are much lighter and once were very reasonable ($1500/set). Haven't priced them lately.

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are those 18"/19" wheels? Got the same setup on mine, but mine seem to fill in better........

 

[Texas1]

Same set-up...Loves these rims!!!

 

[FLX109]

Oh Yah and here is the all hated H wheels on a GenII

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[01sapphirebob]

Oh Yah and here is the all hated H wheels on a GenII

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I LOVE my "H" spokes!!

 

[Jeebs]

Oh Yah and here is the all hated H wheels on a GenII

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I was never a big fan of those rims but I dont think that looks to bad. Looks clean.

 

[Mopar Boy]

Man I love the H spokes!!

As to the OP, if you have a speedo recalibration box, call up the manufacturer, tell them the new size and they will tell you how to slip the dip switches. Did that with mine when I went from the 345/25 Pirelli to the 335/30 P sports as I was out 4 mph from gps. Unitrax did the calculation and all I needed to do is flip a switch.

On jacks point, Keep in mind tire size f to r as something like a 6% difference front to rear will likely throw the abs light on....

 

[Mopar Boy]

Have the same Gen 3 wheels on my 97. Easy change over. All answers correct. The lugnuts from 96-98 are not chrome capped so I bought replacement chrome for a Cherokee, they have the correct "seat" to torque the wheel if you need to replace your stock chrome cap 99-02 lugnuts.

What year Cherokee? My chrome is peeling on a couple.

Thanks.

 

[Voodoo Rob]

I went to AutoZone to compare price to the dealer for the factory Viper lugnuts for 99-02. I posted on here the night before that I needed some lugnuts and the suggestion was to cross reference to a early 2000s Grand Cherokee. Autozone dude looked up the Cherokee part number and there they were most of them in stock with a few needing to be ordered and the lugnut seat was correct! I couldnt find proper seating off the shelf packs of lugnuts anywhere, must have returned 4 different sets trying them out.

 

[John N]

are those 18"/19" wheels? Got the same setup on mine, but mine seem to fill in better........

Yes, they are the same. Maybe the picture was taken right after taking off of jack stands for install (I don't really remember when picture taken), or maybe it is just angle and lighting. Here is different angle...

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[FrgMstr]

That looks EFFIN AWESOME! Congrats bro. Hope you got a chance to drive it today when it was 83F!

Same set-up...Loves these rims!!!

 

[Got_Vnum]

Yes, they are the same. Maybe the picture was taken right after taking off of jack stands for install (I don't really remember when picture taken), or maybe it is just angle and lighting. Here is different angle...

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That looks awesome. I'm considering 6-spokes. Are those chromed or is that just the factory polished look? Is your car lowered or stock suspension?

 

[mattdillon]

My 5 spokes are off an 06' model I believe. 19's & 18's and I used the caps that came off the oem wheels off the 2000. I think I still need to lower it about 1" though. jmo

 

[mattdillon]

Here's 1 more pic, I didn't think the last one did the wheels justice. Out in the sun they shine a lil' more, car actually looks a little lower in this one to.

 

[ACR_Matt]

All these combos look great! Its really got me thinking about upgrading. Has anyone put the Gen IV ACR or Sidewinder wheels on their Gen II? I think it'd look awesome..

 

[FLX109]

Here's 1 more pic, I didn't think the last one did the wheels justice. Out in the sun they shine a lil' more, car actually looks a little lower in this one to.

That looks great....

I think the newer style wheels definately brighten up the later vipers for sure.