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KenH

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Hi All,

This is my first post. As a working man, who does OK, but is not rich by any stretch, I started my search for my next car a couple of months ago. My daily ride was a 3000GT VR4 which was modified up to about 400HP. With AWD, it was the perfect rainy weather ride, but I needed to up the fun factor.

I looked at the Z06, Saleen Mustang and new M3. Each was relatively practical and not too expensive, but I couldn’t get past the fact that at the end of the day, the Z06 is still a Corvette, the Saleen is still a Mustang and the M3 looks pretty much like every other BMW on the road. I read this message board and did a bunch of searches. One common thread has been that although many of these other cars are more polished and refined, they are simply not a Viper. I thought I understood what those statements meant, but I wasn’t sure. I also gained some hope from this msg. board that it is in fact, at least theoretically, possible to live with a Viper every day (except for snow or ice). I mainly have to deal with rain.

Well I picked up my new ’01 Yellow GTS yesterday and I have been grinning from ear-to-ear ever since. I wasn't giddy before buying the car. This seems to have occured after having spent 24 hours with it.

It already has more rattles when brand new than my old VR4 did at 6 years, but somehow that doesn’t seem very important. I figure if it starts to bother me, a good exhaust upgrade should drown it out nicely.

I discovered that my gently sloping driveway apparently requires slightly more than the 5” of ground clearance the Viper provides in order to transverse. Now that I am attuned into ground clearance, I realize just how many steep driveways and speed bumps there are. I’ll have to watch for these obstacles and remap many of my routes to avoid damaging the skirt, but that seems to matter little.

I took it out to get some car washing gear today and didn’t make it home for 3 hours. I couldn’t seem to get the beast pointed back for home. The Viper seemed to miss every exit and turn, forcing me to travel circuitous routes to try to get to my destination. I had people taking my picture on the freeway, women gawking in adjacent cars, performance cars like Camero SS’s humbly moving over to let me pass and remaining a respectful distance back and crowds gathering at the petstore when I went in for fish food. My VR4 always took me directly home with no fuss, but somehow I don't miss it much.

When I finally got around to washing the Viper, I was amazed at how much brake dust these things put out and how much work it is going to take to keep it looking good as a daily driver, not to mention that the performance brake pads squeal a little at times, but somehow that doesn’t seem to matter much. They are, after all, performance pads.

I’m still trying to figure out where to stick my tire gauge and owner’s manual and my wife has looked vainly for the cup holders and glove box, but that seems of little importance right now.

I passed many Corvettes, Saleen’s, BMW’s, and others on the road today and I couldn’t believe that I had almost bought one instead of the Viper! I would have gone through life not realizing what I had missed, until a Viper went by and then I know I would have felt inadequate and unfulfilled somehow and more than a little jealous, no matter what else I was driving. I barely noticed those other cars, but they sure noticed me.

I washer her (him?) and put it away in the garage for the night and I’m grinning ear-to ear as I write this. I realize that I have difficulty applying the term 'car' to this vehicle as I write this. Only 'Viper' seems appropriate. Those poor ******** in Corvettes and the like don’t know what they are missing (or maybe they do!). I'd write more, but I think I'll go out into the garage and play with the hood and look at the engine one more time tonight before go to bed and get ready to take it into work for the first time tomorrow. Should be fun.....

--- Ken
 

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Ken,
Great post. I am just like you in that I juggled so many things in order to buy my Viper. Kids going to college, buying a new business, home improvements etc... all in bad times...I can never think of enough reasons to get in the car and go for a drive. I have had it for 3 months now and have 3,200 miles on it. 3 oil changes later, make sure you break yours in carefully.
I have been complimented so many times now, it never gets old. Only this last friday did I get my first negative one when a guy called out "you *****" I laughed inside knowing that to be the farthest from the truth, and also because I had 3 guns and over a 1,000 rounds in the trunk....I just came from a shooting range with some friends. Good thing for him, I am not one of those crazy people that has a loaded one on board. Now that you have your dream car, you will need to be polite to others on the road so as to keep the good viper name. There are always plenty of times to push the throttle hard, just do not do it everytime some one wants to race. I have had kids want me to light up the tires at a light only to find a cop at the next light. So be careful, and have fun, Heck the most fun I had was when I came up behind this guy smoking a big cigar in a convertible M3 and he thought he was the hotest thing, until I finally came right in behind him, and he instantly grabbed the steering wheel with both hands and held on for dear life. I loved his instant change from being top dog to puppy dog. Those times are the best, and you do not even have to race... Have fun Dennis Kimball
 

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Congrats! Sorry to hear about the rattles - my '00 GTS has no squeeks or rattles whatsoever. If they start to bother you, the dealer should have a look.

I agree with your assessment of the other cars that you considered. The M3 is a good looking car with great handling and all the comforts of a luxury car, but many of us already live among a swarm of these imports. The Z06 looks too darn similar to a standard Vette. I think the Saleen would be less worthy than getting a project Cobra and adding a supercharger and other goodies to make 400+ HP, but at the end its still not as exclusive as the Viper.

One more thing to look forward to is the fact that the car does not get "old" very soon. I've had cars that I couldn't wait to unload after the first year of ownership, but I have no plans as such for my Viper. In fact, if there is any way possible and when the market powers back - I'll be looking for a Steel Gray Viper for my wife.
 
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Hi guys,

I may have overstated the rattle business a little. It is more like a buzz off a vibrating interior panel somewhere that comes and goes, not like anything major. My car is new, but has 200 miles on it from demo drives, and I am sure they weren't all to the break-in spec! Don't worry Dennis, I am trying to ensure that the next 300 are pretty easy on it. I find that I drive this car slower than any other one I have owned. Nothing to prove I guess.

AlexNC, I have dealt with dynomat for other uses and that stuff is indeed a good vibration dampner, but it is pretty darn heavy.

By the way, I just got off the phone with the insurance company and the Viper will cost $37/mo. more to insure than my 6 year old 3000GT. Kind of makes you wonder where they come up with these numbers, not that I'm complaining!

--- Ken
 

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I've noticed that I have three sources of minor rattles: the emergency brake pushbutton, and either interior emergency door opening device (behind your left ear if driver). If they bother me, I just slap them, and it seems to intimidate 'em.
 

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My car is new, but has 200 miles on it from demo drives, and I am sure they weren't all to the break-in spec! Don't worry Dennis, I am trying to ensure that the next 300 are pretty easy on it.
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Ken -

The "proper break-in" is 1000 miles -

Courtesy of Joseph Houss:

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Here's the procedure from "the MAN" himself, Mr Herb Helbig, Team Viper Manager of Vehicle synthesis:

"Keep your vehicle speed below 70 MPH (113 KPH) for the first 1000 miles (1600 km). Do NOT make any full-throttle starts or acceleration during this time. Avoid driving at a constant engine rpm for long periods.

Here is a suggested schedule for best engine break-in:

Light throttle run-ups, shifting at a maximum rpm of 2500 for the first 200 miles (never exceeding the speed limit)

Recommend change the oil at 200 mile mark

Light throttle run-ups, max of 3500 for the next 200 miles

Light throttle run-ups, max of 4000 for the next 200 miles

Light throttle run-ups, max of 4500 for the next 200 miles

Light throttle run-ups, max of 5000 for the next 200 miles"

NOW YOU'RE DONE...and ready to RUMBLE!

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Good luck and congratulations -
 
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Thanks for the break-in info Rich. I was just going by the owner's guide recommendation. Does make me wonder though if I should be concerned about the probable engine mistreatment during the first 200 demo miles. Not that I can do anything about it at this point.

Frank, I'll check out the points you mentioned. Seemed like it was coming from the center console, so it might just be the emergency brake button as I pressed on all the panels I could find. I'm not sure that I am quite up to trying to intimidate my Viper yet though. I think it's still the other way around in our relationship.

--- Ken
 

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Congrats, I am on my 5th Viper and still have a smile from ear to ear.
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Ken, you have just begun to realize what owning your 1st Viper means. I, too, am a 1st Viper owner (Feb, '01) who never considered buying this car until seeing a GTS (living in Florida, I'm not into convertibles) at the local grocery store. You must personalize your GTS with accessories in order to fully enjoy all it can bring to you. I call mine the "Share Car" because everyone who sees it wants to sit in it or be part of owning it in some way. I have owned Porsches, Ferraris, and Mercedes Benzes and none can come close to the pleasure my Red GTS brings. "Welcome to the best kept secret in all the Automotive Universe!"
 

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Hey, Ken, thanks! Your posts made ME smile! Don't rule out ice and snow...we drove both our Vipers to Las Vegas for the Viper Owners' Invitational and got into a snow storm on I-70. Both cars did fine. Our only real worry was that a big chunk of ice might have falled off a truck that went before us, but that didn't happen, thank goodness! Handling was okay, however. Good luck with yours...and keep on havin' fun!
 

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