GT-3 (the game) reveals 200 mph GTS capab.

toddt

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Okay, call me crazy, call me stupid, but hear me out.

Last year, after buying my ACR, 5th and 6th were driving me NUTS! They are so tall as to be almost useless in the case of 6th. So I started toying with my stock GTS "simulation" in Gran Turismo 3.

I found, as a control test, that the numbers GT3 was coming up with for the viper performence VERY closely matched what I was actually seeing from my car.

The first thing I did was fool around with changing the differential. Unfortunately, this only changed which gear was useless--1st. The car suddenly became a 90's RX-7 in first--so short a gear that the wheels were instantly overpowered at anything near half throttle below a certain MPH. Furthermore, it did not solve the ratio gap between 4th and 5-6.

One of the wonderful things about GT3 is that it offers you the ability to change individual gearing in the gearboxes.

Well, after some careful work on the ratios of 5th and 6th, I finally struck a set of ratios that produced some awesome results.

We all know that the viper is drag-limited to around 175-180. Why? Because it's geared to go 280 in 6th, and I forget what in 5th--like 220. 4th falls well short of 180 though, and really it is where it should be, IMHO.

The simulation reflects all this perfectly.
So I took 5th from .740 to .815
and 6th from .500 to .681.

The result: A much more perfectly balanced set of gears, UNCHANGED 0-60 times and 1st-2nd drivability, AND
the car topped out at 203mph RPM LIMITED.

So. Does anyone know where I can get a new set of 5th and 6th gears of these values. :^)

Oh--by the way--I'll just state for the record that the number one worst mods I ever made on my LAST car (blown Z28) was going from the stock 2.42(? memory dimming) to the 3.11s.

Because of the change in the shift points, my car wound up SLOWER. Ugh. One thing it taught me, the hard way, is that a shorter diff is not necessarily better. There is no substitute for research. I wish I could count the number of F-body posters glorifying the gear swap after they themselves had spent the money on it. It's very difficult to admit when you've made a bad mod, sometimes.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by toddt:


1) We all know that the viper is drag-limited to around 175-180.

2) Does anyone know where I can get a new set of 5th and 6th gears of these values.
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1) I believe the GTS has been tested for top speed by several notable sources (C&D comes to mind most readily) and achieved numbers in the low 190's.

2) Doubtful you would be able to find such gears off-the-shelf. Probably custom made only including counter-gears and heaven knows what else.

Interesting post for sure. Shorter gears are not my cup of tea but many really enjoy shorter shifting and say it feels like a 50 rwhp shot. Vanilla/chocolate ice cream issue.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by toddt:
We all know that the viper is drag-limited to around 175-180.
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That sound more like for the RT/10 not the GTS..

Motortrend got a GTS to go 192mph in its High Speed Shootout test a few years ago...It set a production car record that lasted until the 550 Maranello did a 194mph a year later in another High Speed Shootout issue....In the latter issue another GTS[not the same one that did 192] did a best of 187mph...So Vipers are very capable of doing over 185-192 depending on track, wind, and the car itself...Not all "GTS" Vipers are equal...But they will all do at least an honest 187+ mph bone stock....

There was a thread a few weeks ago by Paolo Castallano about custom gears...Do a search or just look in Performance Mods section to find it...It was very interesting to say the least...

Here you go toddt: http://vca1.viperclub.org/menus/index_forums.htm
 
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