GTS window regulator guide help!

[Hirkophoto]

Okay here are a few photos of what I need. It's a window regulator guide for a 2000 GTS. I suspect the part is the same from any GEN II year. This is a small plastic part that it connected to the window with a clip and regulator track at the same time and actually holds the window in place. (Just the small plastic part that the upper and lower cables attach to) The dealer wants me to buy a new regulator for $750 because they don't sell the part seaperately. ^11
Anybody out there that has one let me know so I can make a deal with you.
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[Solid Red 98]

There was a thread about this some time earlier, perhaps the poster will chide in. The part in question is apparently shared with some years of Chrysler Caravan. One can be had from a wrecking yard for peanuts. Good luck.

 

[Hirkophoto]

Wow that would be nice if anyone knows about the part or the post LMK. Thanks.
Hirk

 

[1997GTS]

When my passenger window first went out when clip broke, I got one used, seems like one vendor keeps selling them. I never found a new source as they wanted to sell with whole regulator assembly.

 

[02 Graphite GTS]

OMG ! $ 75.00 !!! plus shipping

 

[Fatboy 18]

Ok I belive Jon B at Partsrack has these but heres the link to the thread I started a while back Good luck

http://forums.viperclub.org/rt-10-gts-discussions/624093-help-needed-window-regulator.html

Mark
UK

 

[PhoenixGTS]

I have a new one I do not need. The reason I did not need it is it is effectively impossible to install. After giving it a serious shot I called Paul Scharf in Wisconsin and bought an entire used unit for cheap. Took about an hour to put it together after getting the used unit. Promblem with putting in the plastic piece only is hard because hit it really hard to get the ferrels on the ends of the cables to go into their positions in the palstic part - especially when they have tension on them.

 

[treed]

Common problem. Unfortunately, you need to replace the whole assembly. Been there, done that. :-(

 

[Fatboy 18]

I have a new one I do not need. The reason I did not need it is it is effectively impossible to install. After giving it a serious shot I called Paul Scharf in Wisconsin and bought an entire used unit for cheap. Took about an hour to put it together after getting the used unit. Problem with putting in the plastic piece only is hard because hit it really hard to get the Ferrel's on the ends of the cables to go into their positions in the plastic part - especially when they have tension on them.

Yep your right there is no way you can just unhook the wire ends and then re-attach them with everything under tension. That's why I took off the galvanised wire spool cover gently removed the blue plastic spool, attached the wire ends to the shuttle then put the spool back over the motor spline An extra pair of hands is good to help hold everything in place and also some mechanical/practical knowledge. I had never done anything like this before, but with a lot of patience and some thought I managed to do it in a morning and at the cost of $17.00 Ive also given this a bit more thought! As long as your wires are not all twisted up (as mine were) it may not be necessary to remove the motor cover, If you look at the First picture posted in the lower part of the pic is the large Black plastic pulley. If you were to slip the wire off the pulley there may be JUST enough flex to attach the wires to the new shuttle then slip the wire back over the pulley using the power of the motor with a couple of wires attached to a 12volt power supply ( as the shuttle is travelling towards the pulley using a flat end of a small screwdriver slip it between the moving wire and the pulley and the wire should slip back over it )Note: you will need an extra pair of hands for someone to momentarily touch the wires to the battery Bingo!

 

[97GTS]

Common problem. Unfortunately, you need to replace the whole assembly. Been there, done that. :-(

Uhh, not true. I replaced just the plastic piece last year. Got one for $50. It DOES take some work and a lot of patience but it beats $700+


Ron

 

[PhoenixGTS]

That's why I took off the galvanised wire spool cover gently removed the blue plastic spool, attached the wire ends to the shuttle then put the spool back over the motor spline An extra pair of hands is good to help hold everything in place and also some mechanical/practical knowledge.

You sir, have mAd sKIlLs yO! I did not try that hard, plus, soon after reassembling everything my motor went out anyway!

 

[Fatboy 18]

That's a Bummer

 

[George Farris]

Had a similar problem years ago with an early 1980s Chrysler.

Put the plastic part in boiling water for a few minures - made it much easier to work with.

Don't know if you would get the same results here. Might be worth a try.

 

[2snakes4us]

Is the plastic guide breaking because of friction? Is this a part you would recommend putting some Lithium grease on from time to time?

 

[Fatboy 18]

Is the plastic guide breaking because of friction? Is this a part you would recommend putting some Lithium grease on from time to time?

To be honest I'm amazed they don't break more often, they have some serious tension pulling either way on them! Yes a little Lithium grease would not hurt but they seem also to break where the window clip attaches to the clip too So its not just the track area that needs looking at!

 

[firecatcamino]

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[vpower01]

Good to know...mine is getting really slow so im worried.
How much for a passenger regulator if i might ask?

 

[Fatboy 18]

Best send private *** If you want to know prices, think its in the forum rules otherwise this will get deleted

 

[firecatcamino]

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[EllowViper]

Mine were getting slow...in fact would not go up or down in 40 degree temps without a helping hand...so I took the door boster off and lubed the piss out of the rails. Now all is well. Goes up/down a lot better.

 

[Detlef]

What did you use for lube? My passenger side is getting slow as well.

 

[Asp Man]

What did you use for lube? My passenger side is getting slow as well.

Would like to know, as well. It's been bugging me that they're are both a bit slow to raise. Probably white lithium grease would work well.

 

[Hirkophoto]

As I'm putting mine back together I will put white lithium spry grease on it. Don't use WD as it will dry it up!

 

[Hirkophoto]

Is the plastic guide breaking because of friction? Is this a part you would recommend putting some Lithium grease on from time to time?

My part broke were the window is attached not the track.

 

[EllowViper]

WD-40 to break down the goo and free everything up....and then some sort of light spray lube I had on the shelf. Not terribly hard to do, but taking apart the door always risks breaking some little part/fastner.

 

[Hirkophoto]

WD-40 to break down the goo and free everything up....and then some sort of light spray lube I had on the shelf. Not terribly hard to do, but taking apart the door always risks breaking some little part/fastner.

That is the plan I'm just waiting for the part in the mail

 

[Fatboy 18]

Yep your right there is no way you can just unhook the wire ends and then re-attach them with everything under tension. That's why I took off the galvanised wire spool cover gently removed the blue plastic spool, attached the wire ends to the shuttle then put the spool back over the motor spline An extra pair of hands is good to help hold everything in place and also some mechanical/practical knowledge. I had never done anything like this before, but with a lot of patience and some thought I managed to do it in a morning and at the cost of $17.00 Ive also given this a bit more thought! As long as your wires are not all twisted up (as mine were) it may not be necessary to remove the motor cover, If you look at the First picture posted in the lower part of the pic is the large Black plastic pulley. If you were to slip the wire off the pulley there may be JUST enough flex to attach the wires to the new shuttle then slip the wire back over the pulley using the power of the motor with a couple of wires attached to a 12volt power supply ( as the shuttle is travelling towards the pulley using a flat end of a small screwdriver slip it between the moving wire and the pulley and the wire should slip back over it )Note: you will need an extra pair of hands for someone to momentarily touch the wires to the battery Bingo!

Like this, but not quite as fast
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0DIl1f073s[/media]

 

[Hirkophoto]

I just put mine on. It took some effort to get the cable on but now I have a window! Thanks for all the help.

 

[Fatboy 18]

Great stuff So how much did you have to pay for the part and which method did you use to get the cables on?
Just wondered if the info I posted was usefull?
Mark

 

[Hirkophoto]

I got it from a member on here for a steal. I did not use either method for putting it on. It's hard to explain how I did it. I put both cables on the basicly compressed the springs on the cables and stretched the cable over the black slider on the end. (not the black pulley end)