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I totally agree.
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Here's a closer look at the hood from another angle.
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Or, maybe it's from the new Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8 I guess SRT really wanted to keep with the "family resemblance" look with their new Viper styling. For me, I'd rather have the Viper taking the design lead and have the "siblings" look up to us
I know it's too early to make final judgement but that is stupid if that's why SRT made the Viper the same. The Jeep SRT8 is Chrysler's flagship SUV. It's over $60k and putting some childish hood scoop on it would take away the classiness IMO. That's why they did it (should have IMO). The Viper however is a raw sports car. The Viper needs louvers, needs a scoop/naca duct, etc. I'm tired of every brand trying to make all of their cars look the same. Let the Viper stand alone with a few similar design cues.
Completely agree with RS. I think you would be crazy not to trade your Gen2 for the Gen5 (ignoring price) IMHO, it is clearly better in every way and a clear evolution of the design. I even believe for the other 50% that prefer the gen3/4, they will view as significant upgrade and evolves some design elements. As for the Volado design, while striking at first glance, also seems extremely over designed and ugly from some angles because of it.
so, you really have to ask yourself (ignoring the $$), would you trade your gen 1/2/3/4 for this model? I suspect a huge majority will say yes when they see it. When you consider the expected quality and performance improvments, I think you even get more.
Maybe that style hood vent is just the most efficient and does what they want it to do better than other designs. The Viper should be about performance over style anyways... If you want to LOOK fast, get a ricer. If you want to BE fast... wait til April 4 to make your decision.
If it has a grill/mesh I just hope that they make it body colored like the current Gens. I really don't think that it needs to be black which just draws unneeded attention to it. That's one of the things I really hated on the Shelby GT500's- that big old ugly black monstrosity on the hood. Their GT500KR hood was a winner in my book though!
Wow, I dont know-
If the front is going to be that busy, then the rear needs some dressing up....the car looks out of style balance .
Completely agree with RS. I think you would be crazy not to trade your Gen2 for the Gen5 (ignoring price) IMHO, it is clearly better in every way and a clear evolution of the design. I even believe for the other 50% that prefer the gen3/4, they will view as significant upgrade and evolves some design elements. As for the Volado design, while striking at first glance, also seems extremely over designed and ugly from some angles because of it.
so, you really have to ask yourself (ignoring the $$), would you trade your gen 1/2/3/4 for this model? I suspect a huge majority will say yes when they see it. When you consider the expected quality and performance improvments, I think you even get more.
Chelsea, that's what I'm thinking too. I really think it's as close as anything I've seen yet, We'll know before long! jmothat is close
Looks good to me, what do you think? Originally from LeftLane news, obv.
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How are you so certain 50% view the Gen III/IV more aesthetically pleasing than the Gen 1/2? Secondly, why so presumptuous that people would "trade ignoring price" for the gen5. Don't play fantasy games and manipulate variables like price. That's lame. Some people actually love the gen1/2 for exactly the car it is. Some don't care for comfy interiors or performance out of the box as their cars already make 700RWHP. A car is a VERY personal experience and if you are one that has to have the "latest and greatest" that is fine. However, as you will see with many viper owners, an early gen will always be in their garage if they are rich along with any other gen and if they are not....most likely a Gen 1/2 will be all that's desired.
There is a reason "old slow" cars sell for so much on "The Block." It's because of the passion the car evokes. It isn't the traction control, LED lights or illuminated cup holders. Nor is it even the 427. It's the passion alone..plain and simple. However encompassing that may be. That is why this Viper is so hard to "evolve." They KILLED it from the start.
Don't want to get into the gen2 vs gen 3/4 debate on design. There is passion on both sides, but would have to agree gen3/4 is a better car in every way other than possibly looks (which many have debated over the years). Also, to add context I owned a 65 corvette stingray for many years as well as a 65 AC Cobra replica before getting a viper. The two before are more iconic cars and definately create an emotional tie with them. Having said that though, after getting my viper, I never looked back. Driving experience, quality, safety, performance, etc is not even comparable. Are the two other cars worth more? (absolutely) Are the two cars before more raw? (absolutely) Is the Viper the most "raw" new car you can buy today? (absolutely) If I still had them all in the garage, would I choose to drive one more often than my viper (absolutely NOT). Going to the track, I would only take the Viper. Car Show? Sure I would take one of the others but are we saying we want show cars?
So, my point is that its great to hold onto the past and the emotion it generates, but don't confuse it with it being a better car. btw, having said all that, I think the Viper is a bit unique in this discussion. I test drove a Corvette ZR1 before getting mine as would have been a natural for a guy that loved his mid-year corvette. Problem is it looks to much like all other corvettes, so a degree of "special" was missing. Vipers don't have this problem.
Lastly, I don't buy the "I don't want a fancy interior, controls, because that makes it less raw" argument. The design and features of the new car will blow gen2/3/4 owners away because it is quite frankly a better design in my opinion the best looking Viper yet all with much improved performance. The fact that the #'s sold will be low will still make it have that "special" feel. So, my main point being, gen 1/2 guys could always justify their slower cars over gen3/4's because of the design they liked better. Corvette "mid-year" guys would do the same. (I know) I think that will be a much more difficult discussion to have when comparing to the gen2 to a gen5.
At the end of the day, we should all be extremely excited they are building such a car for us to even debate and critique, but I think we do it a huge disservice when we say they "KILLED" it from the start. It will still be the "rawest" new car you can purchase.
Wow, I think you missed my entire point and ironically proved it with your reply. I highlighted it for you. You went to great lengths to talk about how new vipers are better as overall "cars" (interior, engine, etc) in which I originally stated. However I mentioned that many people don't care about those things when they have something that evokes such raw passion and admiration. It isn't like a gen 2 got slaughtered by a gen III in performance; quite close stock. The mods on Gen II/III/IV make them all too fast for almost any driver. But again, that isn't the point. The original viper evoked so much excitement and passion from its owners and viewers that it is hard to top. Plain and simple. Your conumdrum with the vette only proves my point that no matter how technically amazing the Vette is (and it is quite a nice vehicle with lots of buttons to push) it doesn't EVOKE a visceral response from some.
I am glad you think the new one is the pinnacle of Viper ownership. But ironically you go from discussing the features and power and how it is not worth going down memory lane, yet then discuss why you DIDN'T go with the much "superior" ZR1 and went with a 500hp 2005 Viper Gen III. The ZR1 is faster, better engineered, has more comforts, safer, etc. All the things you said people need to go for....yet you went back to something that evoked passion in you. Dat dere contradiction is strong in you brah....