Chuck 98 RT/10
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We've had ABS for six years now. Anybody seen a reduction in accidents or fatalities?
Just curious...
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fluffy
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And with the Gen III came the run-flats, which I'm sure more than made up for the ABS. I'd be willing to bet that even with 600hp we'll see far fewer "fatal crash" threads that involve the '08s.
C O D Y
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Over the last 6 years....
~More HP
~Almost twice as many vipers
~and ABS
I haven't noticed double the fatalities, so I would say yes.
~More HP
~Almost twice as many vipers
~and ABS
I haven't noticed double the fatalities, so I would say yes.
ABS definately helps the statistics Im sure, but I think traction control would help out more. As much as I hate traction control, I think there are too many people that dont know how to drive, that need traction control. I think a majority of accidents in Vipers are related to the throttle,not the brakes.
propsail
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There are probably no statistics for the Viper itself. Another question would be whether or not ABS has reduced the accident rate in the general population. Since ABS doesn't significantly affect stopping distances, but offers the possibility of control, it would be interesting to see if it was the g-dsend the government promised.
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SweetRed04
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The statistics I've seen on ABS in general show that if a car is equipped with ABS drivers end up with more accidents due to counting on the system.
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If ABS doesn't significantly affect stopping distances, why did the stopping distances drop after ABS was put on?
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Yes, in my personal experience, I have had street situations, e.g., people pulling out in front of me, etc., that would have definitely been an accident in my 98 that were not because of the better brakes in my 05.
Chuck 98 RT/10
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All mag data with 01 and 02 (GEN II ABS) stopping distances are the same as previous years.
03 and above are completely redesigned systems.
Chuck 98 RT/10
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Did you wreck your 98?
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Been a while since I've looked at those numbers, but that seems unlikely...got some scans to post and show?
Chuck 98 RT/10
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I don't have anything handy but do a search on Motor Trend or any of those rags. It has been discussed on this site numerous times.
Chuck 98 RT/10
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My eyes are deceiving me. Did Chuck quote Motor Trend as a source ?
Just for stat data, wiseguy.
DodgeViper01
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I think that ABS is something that is necessary on cars, especially if you are not a experienced driver. Chuck and I have had many discussions on this topic as he feels that it is really not necessary but I feel that it can help. If you are a experienced driver, I can see how it can harm times or driving ability but for soccer moms and teenagers, I think it can help. Yes some people will drive more erratically because they know they have the system, but overall I know that this system has helped since it was introduced.
I have not had it on either of my Vipers, 96 & 00 GTS, so I cannot comment about it on a Viper as I have not had a situation to use it on either one of them. Years ago, I had a 96 Grand Cherokee with ABS and was driving through Charlotte in the rain when all at once the guy in the left lane lost it and was sliding into me. I had to swerve toward the guy in the right lane and then back toward the guy in the left all the while stomping the brake. The Grand never slipped a bit and steered like it was on rails. I do see how it could come in handy, but I do not think it would be a deciding factor on whether or not I would pick a Viper.
PatentLaw
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Maybe mag data, but others don't agree with that statement. Significantly shorter stopping.
See the link. http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Followup/articleId=48641
Just another reason to own a 2001 or 2002 vehicle.
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Yeah, there's some mag data, 155 feet stopping distance in a 2000, 115 feet in a 2001 with ABS, sounds like ABS helps to me. Plus as they noted, and I have experienced a number of times in my non-ABS 98, that stopping involved wheel lock which isn't acceptable.
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On wet (!) surfaces the stopping distance seems to be approx. 50-60% - with ABS - compared to a GEN-1 and GEN-2 without ABS. Tires and tread play an important role also...
This has been proved during drivers trainings - for example here:
http://www.viperclub.de/galerie.php?g=2005_Augsburg
This has been proved during drivers trainings - for example here:
http://www.viperclub.de/galerie.php?g=2005_Augsburg
