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I see some great prices on cars that have 30-45k miles. Is buying a viper with those miles risky? Part of me thinks that it would be good because the engine has had some decent usage. I don't know when these engines start to have problems (even if well cared for). Has anyone driven their cars to 100k+ miles without major engine issues? If the car is very well maintained and serviced would it be wise to go for a car with 35k-45k miles and get the better price, or should I go for the garage queen and pay the extra 4-8k???
 

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These engines are basically bullet proof...........there are cars with 100K miles with no issues what-so-ever! There are many who don't drive their cars much for fear of the depreciation, then there are those of us who bought the car to DRIVE IT...enjoy its attributes, and have some fun in life and not look at a trophey in the garage. 30 to 50K in a 12 or 14 year old car is NOT high milage. If the car is maintained properly......it should be good to go!!
 

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It has been discussed many times here that garage queens can actually have more problems than driven cars. Seals and stuff that only sit there and never get lubricated can actually fail faster that ones experiencing daily or at least more frequent use.
 

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These engines are basically bullet proof...........there are cars with 100K miles with no issues what-so-ever! There are many who don't drive their cars much for fear of the depreciation, then there are those of us who bought the car to DRIVE IT...enjoy its attributes, and have some fun in life and not look at a trophey in the garage. 30 to 50K in a 12 or 14 year old car is NOT high milage. If the car is maintained properly......it should be good to go!!

EXACTLY what Ken said! IF you're going to look at your Viper as some financial investment :rolleyes:, then you'll find far better choices IMO. If you're going to "invest in driving pleasure", then you'll be thrilled at your return. ;)
 

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It has been discussed many times here that garage queens can actually have more problems than driven cars. Seals and stuff that only sit there and never get lubricated can actually fail faster that ones experiencing daily or at least more frequent use.

Dave speaketh the truth.
My 98 had only 9K on it when I bought it and had a lot of issues, including an oil leak.
It runs way better now at 30K.
 

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I hate to keep pimping my 97, BUT:

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It has less than 3000 miles per year, but is consider near high mileage, does that make sense? It has been completely prepped for the new owner(new clutch, brakes, plugs/wires, oil change) If I don't sell it by June 15, I plan on using it for my Route 66 drive with my son to California this summer :2tu:. To he!! with the gas prices! :D :D
 

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Oh yeah... Better give my standard speech now...

If you put your car in the bank and your money in the garage, your investment in fun will never reach maturity, and your financial goals will be passed by inflation.
 

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+2 on what ken & jon & dave said

if you want a car to drive, then buy a car that has been driven
 

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I see some great prices on cars that have 30-45k miles. Is buying a viper with those miles risky? Part of me thinks that it would be good because the engine has had some decent usage. I don't know when these engines start to have problems (even if well cared for). Has anyone driven their cars to 100k+ miles without major engine issues? If the car is very well maintained and serviced would it be wise to go for a car with 35k-45k miles and get the better price, or should I go for the garage queen and pay the extra 4-8k???

I currently have 81,000 on my 97 and it runs like a top . . . want to know what really makes the Viper tech I work with nervous? 10 year old cars with 10,000 miles on them. A typical engine with all it's moving parts was not meant to sit idle for long periods of time . . . I think the main issue is really how the car is maintained more than the odometer reading. Good luck.
 
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I currently have 81,000 on my 97 and it runs like a top . . . want to know what really makes the Viper tech I work with nervous? 10 year old cars with 10,000 miles on them. A typical engine with all it's moving parts was not meant to sit idle for long periods of time . . . I think the main issue is really how the car is maintained more than the odometer reading. Good luck.

nice that is good to know. I have been a little biased toward the lesser mile vehicles, but I would get this car to drive and not sit. I don't think a 40k vs 80k car will differ that much on the resale in a few years anyways...
 

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If you plan on driving it a lot get one with mileage already on it. The only thing low mileage does is bump up the price and make re-selling it easier. These motors will run to over 100k with no problems if treated properly just like any other motor.
 
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Here is another question. If I get a "decent deal" on a GTS for about 40-45k, and put maybe 5k miles on it a year. Would it be unreasonable to sell it 3-5 years down the road for 35-40k? Are these cars at a low point and expected to appreciate at all...or are they going to continue to decline? I am not looking for an investment (my fun is enough) but I am not necessarily looking to take a bath in case I need to free up some assets down the road. Thanks everyone!
 

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nice that is good to know. I have been a little biased toward the lesser mile vehicles, but I would get this car to drive and not sit. I don't think a 40k vs 80k car will differ that much on the resale in a few years anyways...

Leaning towards a low mileage car is certainly understandable and not something I am saying is wrong. My only suggestion is try to put less emphasis on the resale issue (probably easier said than done) and more attention to what you want to do with the car. As another post suggested, if you are going to put a lot of miles on it, don't pay the extra for a low mileage car up front. I knew when I bought mine it was going to be a daily driver, which it is. I commute 130 miles each day and have not regretted one minute of it.
 

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Cars as investments are not a good way to go - they lose money. When you buy a car you should buy one that you want and that's being used for what you want to use it for. Racing, cruising, posing, garage queen, etc.

If it's stock you're after then more miles means less value. Modififications and upgrades increase the value of an older car as new, bigger breaks, new clutch, new tires, are also considered "rebuilds". If you instal lightweight bigger breaks on the car at 30K, like I did the brakes now are NEW, not 30,000mi. old. If you upgrade the engine with forged pistons and camshaft the new bearings, rings, etc, mean tbe engine is also lower miles than the car and slightly increase the value.

A buyer that wants smaller brakes, cast pistons, hot exhuast sills, etc. will say upgrades lower the value of the car. To him, they do, but to someone like me that wants a nice sounding, cool sill, big power, better handling car all my upgrades are equivalent in value to a much lower mileage car and most of us will buy the car for the way it drives and looks, not whatever the speedo says (they can be changed).

When I wrote off my 98 GTS, the insurance adjuster said that I'd upped the mileage 50% (19,000 - 29,000mi) and I'd devaued the car. I showed him the magazine feature article and my recent 1st place car show trophy and we adjusted the 'real' value up $9,000, not down. They increased the 'stock value' by $6,000 for the upgrades (sc, wheels, exhaust, etc.) and added another $1,000 for the upgraded electronics. The "book" value they started from was $45,000.

Get your monies worth, buy YOUR 'perfect car'.

Ted
 

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Go buy a Viper you like and can afford. And in 3 or 4 years, if you need to sell, you can ask then what it's worth.
 

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:) I bought a medium priced car, with medium miles to drive once in a while. When I sell (if I sell :D)I would expect a medium price in return based on the other mediums at that time! I guess my point is...I bought a car at a fair price and I will drive it a fair amount and I will get a fair price (or market price) for it when I decide to sell. Thats all I can expect!!! I bought mine to drive and invest in some fun. There is always a price to pay any way you go:headbang: Make sense? :dunno: Wheres my 10th cup of coffee???:bounce:
 
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