Mopar Viper vs. SRT Oil Filters

[Flexx91]

Is there a difference between the two? Externally, they look identical except one is labeled "Viper" and the other is labeled "SRT". Each has its own part number.

 

[ViperGTS]

http://forums.viperclub.org/grail-trail/629200-new-srt-oil-filter-help.html

 

[Steve-Indy]

Both come in a Mopar box.

The one marked "Viper" is part number 05037836AA...and is designed to fit 1992-2006 Vipers.

The one marked "SRT" is part number05038041AA...and is designed to fit 2008-2010 Vipers.

The threads are different...thus no interchangability.

 

[TrapperJ]

I'm old school, so I like my first oil change at 500 miles. I special ordered two 2009 Viper appropriate oil filters from the OEM parts dept. They arrived and I took them to my friends shop with my oil to use his lift. Well since this was my first oil change with this car, I didn't know that the sizes are different for Gen 4 cars. Luckily my friend had a generic oil filter that fit the threads and I was able to drive away.
When I got home I called the parts dept. manager and told him my situation. He talked to the service manager. They agreed to my request for a new oil change with the correct filter at their expense. No argument, just good service. Thank you Napleton in Lake Park, FL.

 

[Steve-Indy]

I share your compulsion on oil.

You will learn that not all parts desk folks or Techs actually deal with enough Viper generations day-to-day to keep it all stratght. That, coupled
with mistakes in manuals, CD's, even the incorrect markings on post-98 clutch fluid reservoir caps, etc., etc. make this site your best source for info unless you live close to the few Very Special Viper Techs that post regularly here.

 

[Flexx91]

Thanks guys.

 

[Bill Pemberton Woodhouse]

Key point here is to get the Viper specific oil filter. We do not recommend using the older , black , standard MoPar filter which will fit on the 2006s on back, as the SRT designed filter is far superior. We supply all new Viper owners with an oil filter , so that the problem Trapper J had does not occur.

Thanks to Steve/Indy for supplying the parts numbers, as this is good info for all Viper owners.

 

[Vpr898]

I'm looking online for part 05037836AA and I'm seeing 05037836AA/05037836AB (the last digit being A or B) used interchangeably. Is there any important difference between the two?

 

[Steve-Indy]

Yes...go with 05037836AB

 

[Vpr898]

Would you mind elaborating?...What is/are the difference(s)?

 

[NMviperguy]

Updated filter to AB from AA so the old one is obsolete.

 

[Steve-Indy]

There was an internal change based on testing done by an outside lab. At the time, there were "no known failures in the field".

 

[Vpr898]

Ahh, good to know. Thanks very much!

 

[Brass Monkey ACR E]

Do the MOPAR oil filters filter particles down to 3 microns like WIX and HASTING filters? Cloth element vs. paper element
Never had a problem using their filters on GEN 2/3/4 VIPERS with the threads being different

 

[Bill Pemberton Woodhouse]

Wix actually builds the filters ( they worked together with Dodge/SRT Engineers ) , but the filter element is set to work for the high pressure, flow rates, etc. need for that big honking V10.

 

[AZTVR]

Wix actually builds the filters ( they worked together with Dodge/SRT Engineers ) , but the filter element is set to work for the high pressure, flow rates, etc. need for that big honking V10.

Do the MOPAR oil filters filter particles down to 3 microns like WIX and HASTING filters? Cloth element vs. paper element
Never had a problem using their filters on GEN 2/3/4 VIPERS with the threads being different

Which begs the question, is a 3 micron filter better for use in the Viper than a 5 or 10 micron filter?

Micron Ratings

 

[dirkbonn]

That probably depends on whether the 3 microns are nominal or absolute and the 5 or 10 microns are nominal or absolute. (I read the article in the link to the "micron ratings" in the above post)

In the meantime I think I'll just use the "SRT" filter, (for my 2010 coupe) and hope they designed a good filter for our "Big Honking V10's" Hehe!

 

[viper04blk]

sssoooo if a have an 04 I want


The one marked "Viper" is part number 05037836AA...and is designed to fit 1992-2006 Vipers.


????????????

 

[Steve-Indy]

If you go with the SRT recommended filter, you will want the updated " AB" version, not the older "AA" version for 92 through 06 Vipers.

 

[viper04blk]

05037836AB is the filter i want for an 04 ?

 

[Steve-Indy]

Yes it is.

 

[Bill Pemberton Woodhouse]

Simple answer thinking that 3, or 5 or 10 microns is best is not necessarily the way to proceed. For those that are not super technical ( that would be me ) , the SRT Engineers explained years ago at a Viper Owner's Invitational that optimal flow rates , drain back capabilities and strength were important for the G forces a Viper can attain, as well as with the amount of oil movement in the pan even with swing arms , etc. The filter was designed and tested , because some filters in the past had seen paper elements start to separate under severe race conditions. Sometimes too tight a filter element is very restrictive and those of us trying to second guess Engineers often are out of our element. The decision to actually do a Viper Specific filter , working with Wix, at the time, was quite a special situation. I often just tell clients if they want to use a filter designed just for their car or one that was made for a multitude of machines. You can make your choice, but for those that track , a Viper filter should be mandatory - IMHO.