MOTEC 800.....Information please

[DSR207]

Trying to find some information about MOTEC 800 for use in SRT10.
Thanks

 

[SVS Turbo]

What may I help you with?

 

[DSR207]

I was told it can go on SRT10, But couldn't find out any information about it...Have you used it, if so do you recommend it...?
Thanks

 

[FrankBarba]

Jr. is the guy to talk to about Motecs here on this board.
SVSI first to use motec, developed it on several of their cars. Your better off giving jr. a call instead of trying to work it out here on the boards.

 

[SVS Turbo]

I was told it can go on SRT10, But couldn't find out any information about it...Have you used it, if so do you recommend it...?
Thanks

Dsr,

Yes, it absolutely can precisely manage any upgrades to your SRT-10 without any glitches.

We have the experience and the ability to wire, prepare, set the parameters and tune a Motec ECU into any year Viper for any application. If you were considering doing a force inducted system on any vehicle, we could do the same.

Along with precisely managing your engine, the Motec features are endless and left up to creativity. Seemless operations can be incorporated into your vehicle once Motec is in control. Safety features like monitoring fuel pressure by way of tranducers can be implemented and save your engine if there's a loss of fuel pressure under any condition.

Boost control, traction control, monitoring any aspect of the engine system in any way you desire is available. It is the blank story board that you direct your film and we produce it.

If there's anything you would like to ask about Motec, please give me a call

Here's some vids and info on an SVS SRT-10 TT managed by Motec:

Motec and SVS

Video 1

Video 2

SRT-10 TT

Hi Frank! Thanks for the words. You have to send me a pic of the kids, Cody must be a Linebacker by now

 

[davem]

Hello,
Why do you want to go with a Motec? This used to be your only option 2-3 years ago - but this is not longer the case. To install it you have to completely hack your wiring harness and install a crank trigger which is a little tricky and important to get right. It does provide you with complete control over just about anything you want and is rugged.

There are less intrusive options. The Roe Vec2 does a pretty good job on fuel and timing if you stay away from 100% duty cycle; AEM compares to a motec feature wise and plugs into the stock harness.

If your looking for some basic fuel tuning you can go with the Vec1 or Apexi S-AFC.

good luck,
Dave.

 

[SVS Turbo]

Hello,
Why do you want to go with a Motec? This used to be your only option 2-3 years ago - but this is not longer the case. To install it you have to completely hack your wiring harness and install a crank trigger which is a little tricky and important to get right. It does provide you with complete control over just about anything you want and is rugged.

There are less intrusive options. The Roe Vec2 does a pretty good job on fuel and timing if you stay away from 100% duty cycle; AEM compares to a motec feature wise and plugs into the stock harness.

If your looking for some basic fuel tuning you can go with the Vec1 or Apexi S-AFC.

good luck,
Dave.

A Motec EMS is nowhere near "intrusive" and you don't have to "hack" your wiring harness. It can be put back to stock in a couple days, by someone who understands what they are doing.

The Motec interface that SVS has incorporated into all generation Vipers is extremely professional and the integration is seamless. A crank trigger set up is simple and not at all tricky when done by someone with experience. We are testing a system right now that will possibly eliminate the need for a trigger wheel.

As far as I know AEM hasn't released an EMS for the Gen3. The only way to get it done is to try and use the version for the plug and play specifically made for the Gen2 and "rig it" into the Gen3. I would call this more of an intrusive situation because of the fact that the Gen2 ECU/Body computers and the Gen3 ECU/Body computers communicate completely different. The SRT-10 ECU/Body computers communicate with greater sophistication compared to a Gen 2 set-up. So if it is plug and play for the Gen2 then you have to hack it apart and try to make it communicate with the SRT-10?

Basic example: Gen2 gauges are all analog and Gen3 are all stepper valve controlled which send a completely different pulse and are harder to communicate with. If you don’t have the optimum precise amount of control of what you are incorporating into the electronics of your Gen3 80k Viper then you will have ASD relay problems. You could be driving along and your Gen3 Viper will just shutdown. Why? Basically because something isn’t communicating properly and the ASD relay shuts the car down. This is only the tip of the iceberg.

When you take an AEM plug and play EMS and place it on a Gen3 Viper, can you then plug in the DRB in order to determine what might be a potential miscommunication between the ECU and the body computer? Or does the AEM tell you everything that the DRB would? The way we interface with a stock system is seamless and the DRB doesn’t even know the Motec is there.

AEM makes a plug and play unit for a specific year and model vehicle. These units are tested for that specific vehicle.

Motec gives you a universal system that handles a higher level of sophisticated controls, with unmatched data logging capabilities and can be incorporated into any vehicle.

I believe a Motec EMS on an SRT-10 forced inducted engine has greater capabilities of running the entire car with better precision and less problems to deal with.

You will end up in the same ballpark $$$$ wise.

 

[FrankBarba]

Jr. sent over some pictures of what i did to combat the crank sensor..

 

[SVS Turbo]

got it

looks very nice

Have you tuned it yet?

 

[CHAD]

SVSi is the only place to go for Motec in a Viper.

Heffner is the only place to go for power in a Viper.

Chad

 

[SVS Turbo]

SVSi is the only place to go for Motec in a Viper.

Heffner is the only place to go for power in a Viper.

Chad

Thanks Chad!

Having choices, opinions and the freedom to promote.

These are only a few of the things that make America a beautiful place to live

 

[boosted1]

A cheap alternative is an AEM unit. Have a certified tuner tune it for you and it will run great. The motec is alot more expensive, harder to find a capable tuner, yet the best ECU on the market hands down.
-Daniel

 

[SVS Turbo]

A cheap alternative is an AEM unit. Have a certified tuner tune it for you and it will run great. The motec is alot more expensive, harder to find a capable tuner, yet the best ECU on the market hands down.
-Daniel

The Motec isn't more expensive It might be more expensive compared to putting it on a Honda Civic or a Supra, but not compared to an SRT-10. The functions/data logging/unlimited capabilities/aux outputs that Motec handles makes it the best ECU on the market.

Being able to utilize the Motec across different platforms and with any vehicles system is what makes it versatile. Isn't AEM basically a plug -n play designed around the parameters of a certain model and year vehicle? Sure you can rig the Gen2 designed AEM ECU to work on an SRT-10 platform. Once you plug in the AEM does the check engine light come on? why? I don't think you can plug in the DRB and find out what the reason is for the check engine light?

How come?...... because you have taken out the stock computer and you can no longer use the DRB. I sure hope that all the functions that are inherent in the stock SRT-10 computer system are 100% intact when you remove it and place the AEM unit in its place. Ok, you can get the car to run, but are all the safety functions still intact? Are you sure? If the car rolls over will the necessary safety functions in the SRT-10 stock computer still do their job? How? The stock Gen3 computer is removed and an AEM version that is made for a completely different system (Gen2) is put in it's place.

Just wondering if you have thought of these things or are you just interested in the cheap alternative?

If you just want the car to run and you have to do it in order to save money, well ............it's America

 

[HOdbleFman]

With the AEM you leave the stock EEM in place and it comes with a wiring harness to connect the EEM to the stock ECU. I believe the EEM also receives information from the front impact sensors. I'm not positive on that. I haven't looked at the pinouts for awhile, so don't quote me on it.

 

[boosted1]

I was just posting an alternative to the Motec. I did state that the motec is hands down a better unit. Even though the Aem is a brand new unit doesnt mean it has new technology, for example it still uses wasted spark tech.
-Daniel

The Motec isn't more expensive It might be more expensive compared to putting it on a Honda Civic or a Supra, but not compared to an SRT-10. The functions/data logging/unlimited capabilities/aux outputs that Motec handles makes it the best ECU on the market.

Being able to utilize the Motec across different platforms and with any vehicles system is what makes it versatile. Isn't AEM basically a plug -n play designed around the parameters of a certain model and year vehicle? Sure you can rig the Gen2 designed AEM ECU to work on an SRT-10 platform. Once you plug in the AEM does the check engine light come on? why? I don't think you can plug in the DRB and find out what the reason is for the check engine light?

How come?...... because you have taken out the stock computer and you can no longer use the DRB. I sure hope that all the functions that are inherent in the stock SRT-10 computer system are 100% intact when you remove it and place the AEM unit in its place. Ok, you can get the car to run, but are all the safety functions still intact? Are you sure? If the car rolls over will the necessary safety functions in the SRT-10 stock computer still do their job? How? The stock Gen3 computer is removed and an AEM version that is made for a completely different system (Gen2) is put in it's place.

Just wondering if you have thought of these things or are you just interested in the cheap alternative?

If you just want the car to run and you have to do it in order to save money, well ............it's America



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