Newbie Q: Where to put a hydraulic jack; wheel lug nut torque

[ohlarikd]

Ok, I can't seem to find in the owners manual any recommended jacking points, not in any searches here. I need to remove the front rim. I am using a typical rolling hydraulic floor jack.

Where am I suppose to place the jack to lift the front? Afraid to cause damage of course. Any tips.

Also - no sign of lug nut torque specs in the manual... ??


Thanks!

Derek

 

[Steve M]

See the little triangle pieces protruding underneath? Those are the jacking points...there are 4 of them underneath.

Lug nut torque - I use 90 ft-lbs, although I've seen values up to 100 ft-lbs.

 

[Steve-Indy]

What year car? Some years have different types of jack points.

Wheel lug nut torque usually stated at 90 ft-lbs...though some go to 100 ft-lbs on track cars.

Sorry about original post...keyboard seems flakey tonight.

 

[ohlarikd]

See the little triangle pieces protruding underneath? Those are the jacking points...there are 4 of them underneath.

Lug nut torque - I use 90 ft-lbs, although I've seen values up to 100 ft-lbs.

Ah, I see them now. Guess I need a special lifting block to fit those - never had a car with this type of thing. I think I have seen these at the auto store....

Thanks!

 

[Steve M]

My jack and jack stands all have rubber pads on them, so I just jack straight on those points. A regular jack pad might scrape them some, but I'd doubt the damage would be anything more than cosmetic.

 

[ohlarikd]

My jack and jack stands all have rubber pads on them, so I just jack straight on those points. A regular jack pad might scrape them some, but I'd doubt the damage would be anything more than cosmetic.

Yeah, never jacked up a car and worried about scratching underneath till now. Will get the pads for the lift and stands for sure...

 

[ohlarikd]

What year car? Some years have different types of jack points.

Wheel lug nut torque usually stated as k cars.ft-lbn trac..though some go to 100 o

2005. Not sure what the last torque statement says.... I don't have a 1987 Aries K-car. I did have an 87 Shelby Charger....

 

[Steve-Indy]

Edited post above.

More readings for insights:

http://forums.viperclub.org/threads/647277-Jack-points-on-a-Gen-III-viper?highlight=jack+points

http://forums.viperclub.org/threads/637432-Jack-points-(pic)?highlight=jack+points

http://forums.viperclub.org/threads/616376-Where-are-the-jack-points-on-an-08?highlight=jack+points

 

[Allan]

I torque at 90ft lbs. Track use plus commute only. ..........well, maybe an occasional jaunt around town to scare children and old ladies.

 

[JPUConn]

I torqued my '06 to 95 lbs right in the middle of the 90 and 100 printed in different year manuals

 

[ohlarikd]

Edited post above.

More readings for insights:

http://forums.viperclub.org/threads/647277-Jack-points-on-a-Gen-III-viper?highlight=jack+points

http://forums.viperclub.org/threads/637432-Jack-points-(pic)?highlight=jack+points

http://forums.viperclub.org/threads/616376-Where-are-the-jack-points-on-an-08?highlight=jack+points

Thanks for the links! Just need to find the pads tomorrow. No one seems to have them locally, but maybe in the store only.

 

[labtec]

You may be able to use hockey pucks for pads depending on your jack tray setup.

 

[Tail lights]

In my 2001 service manual recommended torque is 80 to 100 foot pounds.

 

[agdetail]

straight from the service manual for 03
122nm 90ft lbs

as for jack points, look for the triangle things at the front and rear of the car. and for floor jacks, i think anywhere on the frame is ok since its so strong.

 

[labtec]

Keep in mind you can jack from either front "jack point" and lift the entire side of car all at once (thread on forum somewhere covers this). I was skepical but tried it, door open.....door shut... no problemo.

 

[ViperGeorge]

If you are worried about putting a bare metal jacking pad on the triangle pieces just fold up an old rag to cushion it.

 

[ohlarikd]

Yeah, as some suggest, I will just use some sort of buffer material. I thought it would be simple to run to the store and get some pads, but they do not seem to exist locally. Online, I see Prothane pads for the service jack and the stands, so I may go that route - time is not an issue here...

 

[viperprowler1]

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You can lift the whole side of the car using the rear lift point as in the photo. Be sure to use jack stands and let the car down on the stands but keep the jack in place and under slight pressure. I also use the rubber pads that fit my rolling jack but you can use folded towels/old t-shirts, etc. if you wish. Be certain everything is in the proper place before removing the wheel, etc. Use the old saw..."measure twice, cut once"...if you get my drift. I also use 100 # as my wheel lug not torque as recommended by Herb Helbig as well as The Viper Wizard. Good luck...Mike

 

[VIPER R]

I've been using a piece of wood 2X4 for 50 years, not one scratch ever, except on the 2X4.

 

[PeterMJ]

I cut a hockey puck into a square and lift the entire rear at once using a center location in the cutout located in front of the diffuser.

 

[PeterMJ]

Yeah, as some suggest, I will just use some sort of buffer material. I thought it would be simple to run to the store and get some pads, but they do not seem to exist locally. Online, I see Prothane pads for the service jack and the stands, so I may go that route - time is not an issue here...

harbor tools

 

[ohlarikd]

harbor tools

Ahh... and wouldn't you know, an actual Harbor Tools STORE just opened up down the street. Will have to pay them a visit - thanks.

 

[ohlarikd]

Combined everyone's ideas... used a rag as a buffer on my small/low hydraulic jack to lift the whole side up from the rear, then used my large hydraulic jack with a 2x4 up front to finish the job.

Torquing to 95ft/lbs...

Thanks everyone, easy once you know, as they say.