Oh, I hear ya there, Aaron--Albany is the same, potholes break the springs in the truck, and we cannot drive the Viper on most roads around here...I don't even take the daily driver on those roads. Unfortunately Mike has no choice what roads he's allotted to take, so he's taken it so carefully, NO broken springs in quite a long time. And, AARON: WHAT are you doing on the forum day before proposing???!!!!! You gotta let us know how it went after all is said and done and celebrating is a-hem, outta the way!!! ~juli~