Oil Additive adds power?

ViperRichRT10

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Anyone know anything about or used EXP4 Additives. I saw a test on Speed Vision, Sports Car Revolution tonight that tested and to their surprise found a product that added 5% HP and lowered temperatures dramatically on the dyno! The stuff is called EXP4 and their web site is EXP4additives.com Is there an oil, fuel, additive expert that might have an opinion on this stuff?
 

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Hi Rich the stuff is excellent i have been using it for over a year now. Im also the New England Regional Rep for the company. The oil additive will reduce oil temperatures is stable to over 500 degrees eliminates slugging reduces friction and compatible with all oil types i use royal purple. The gas additive will clean the top teir of the combustion chamber provides total fuel stability also contains fristion modifiers that lubricate the piston walls rings, and seals that improves fuel efficiency of the oil. reduces emissions cleans the injectors and the intire fuel system as well as increasing fuel economy power and acceleration. If you are interested pm me or email me at [email protected] i can send you information on the product and can also sell you the product. it is an awesome fuel and oil additive best i have ever used. hopefully tom the fluid guy chimes in he is familiar with our product. thanks for the interest jerry colpitts :2tu:
 

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So this is the real deal? It is very hard to believe. How does it work? Any downside on older (1993) cars?
 

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5% hp? hmmmm......~25hp on a stock car, better than a set of headers. I'd like to see some back to back dyno runs with and without the stuff. Somehow I doubt it.... :rolleyes:
 
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5% hp? hmmmm......~25hp on a stock car, better than a set of headers. I'd like to see some back to back dyno runs with and without the stuff. Somehow I doubt it.... :rolleyes:

I agree and somehow doubt we would see 5% on a Viper. However, They did do back to back dyno runs (3 pulls before, and 3 pulls after) on a Ford F-150 and realized 5% HP improvement!?!?! This was on Sportscar Revolution on Speedvision. The guys on the show even said they were very surprised. If it works with Mobil 1 I guess I could give it a try.

SnakeEye...You can never have enough HP!

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Jerry would their be any problem if you use an aftermarket oil cooler???
 

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Isn't alot of that trick oil stuff designed for commercial conveyors etc and in time corrodes your bearings?
 

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Clear out the adaptive settings in the onboard computer. Do three runs. Change the oil or don't change it. Run three times again on the dyno. Hey, the second three are stronger. Nothing to do with the oil, just the computer learning it's performance parameters. I assume the F150 was OBD II, fuel injecteed, computerized, etc.

By the way, technically it would be "5% less HP lost" not "5% gained" if a change in a viscosity agent did anything, although I understand people are talking in terms of net.
 

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I didn't see the TV commercial, so my comments are general.

Oil additives already in oil are detergents, dispersants, anti-wear, friction modifiers, and anti-oxidants. Of these, one could add more friction modifiers, which would make the boundary lubrication conditions less stick-slip, and consequently some of the energy consumed to overcome this friction is available at the crankshaft. Fuel economy benefits from lubricant friction modifiers can be up to a few percent.

To reduce the bulk oil temperature, in my experience, this has only happened when reducing the viscosity (noticeable when converting from SAE 50 to SAE 20W50, for instance.) The shear in a thick oil generates a great deal of heat in the oil. The specific locations in an engine that generate heat from boundary lubrication conditions (and that are benefitted from friction modifiers) are not plentiful enough to show a significant change in bulk oil temperature. (If it did see a temp change from FM, you would have been on the way to wearing out the engine.)

Some "quack" oil additives were old technology gear oil additives that relied on certain metallurgy in the ring and pinion gears. This chemistry was extremely aggressive and could damage (corrosion) internal engine parts.

Fuel additives are generally various types of detergents that clean parts and restore performance. I'll say that again; you are getting back the power the engine had, but that was taken away when deposits formed. Cleaning up an engine changes the power output, but only back to where it should have been.

There are also fuel additive friction modifiers. These additives reduce friction above the ring travel, where the lubricant doesn't easily get to. They are quite a special class, since it provides a "lubricant" performance function but must be compatible with fuel and intake systems. Data to support a few percent fuel economy improvement exists.

From my prior life in the chemical company of an large oil company, I can believe combinations of lubricant, lubricant additive boosts, and fuel additives can change fuel economy by 5%. In fuel economy testing, it is a large task, but eventually you can keep everything constant (oil temperatures, engine speeds, vehicle transmission/differential temperatures, ambient temps, etc, etc) and accurately measure changes in fuel consumption due to the change you're interested in.

I never got the chance to use the same combinations to measure power output, which is a far greater challenge. Most dyno pulls are from low to high RPM, coolant temps are changing, oil temps are changing, etc, etc. For example, if you started with a 20W50 oil, as it heated up from pull to pull, it would warm up and thin out. Power would go up. What would be a better experiment is to go back to the original conditions (i.e. without the additive) and see if the power went back down. Of course you can't then take the additive out of the oil, so you can start to see how you have to be clever when trying to make these assessments. Again, I didn't see the show, so I can't comment on their test procedure. But I think there are combinations of additive components that, but reducing friction, allow greater flywheel output.
 

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Hi Guys since i have been using this product my self what i have noticed is that my engine seems to run really smooth. I also know that with the combination of the gas treatment and the oil treatment at each oil change that my engine has the best friction reducers i have found in an oil additive and it is keeping my engine clean i am more about the protection of the engine less friction less wear more power. I have copies of the show on dvd if anyone wants one. I personally did not notice any horsepower gains on my car so i will not say that there is any. I did notice a better gas mileage and a lot of my customers have as well. A lot of four bangers have been using the oil treatment at the track with very good results in oil temps and smoother running engines. EXP 4 is also being used by one of the race teams this year in the one lap of america road race. You can check that out on the onelapofamerica.com website. Where there is also more infomation on EXP 4 as well. :2tu:
 

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:rolleyes: :eek: Just remember the "old saying" If it is too good to be true ......





I wish you good luck.
 

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