Opinions on repair pic

[SquadX]

Had some repairs done on my car. Was changing to oil Sunday, I noticed my front drive side control arm. Where the control arm connects to the frame (I assume where the car gets aligned at) it pushed forward slightly. Is this something I need to be worried about?

 

[dave6666]

Somebody whacked a parking curb pretty good or something. My car had a similar ding under there that I discovered, but it was much easier to tap back out due to a different spot on the bracket, then hit it with a finishing disk, and dabbed with paint. You can't even tell now.

On your car you would likely need to remove the control arm to do the steps like I did. Not rocket science, but most certainly you would need an alignment after reassembly.

It likely hurts nothing. But maybe like mine, as soon as I saw it, it was next thing on the list to fix.

 

[Asp Man]

The circled area is what you're talking about, right?
Looks like it's been "wacked". Did you have some frame repairs done? The paint on the area looks different. I'd ask the shop what happened. Did it fall off of the lift?

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[Matt M PA]

I'm wondering what kind of frame repair was done to begin with. It doesn't say so in your post, but your pictures are titled as such.

Seems sloppy with overspray on the arm.

 

[Viper Wizard]

If that's how you got it back from a body shop, it was not done very well! I'm sure it handles like crap too?

Picture 1, look at the motor mount. It is out of place, so much that the pin on the mount is out of the slot on the frame!! Your Viper must have taken a good shot!!

Picture 3, look at the shinny spot on the control arm - is that a crack I see?

Picture 4, look at the impact marks - NOT good! Those can make the control arm weak! Also the repair on the bracket - poor job!

My 2-cents from looking at so few pictures.

 

[big-n-italian]

i can see why you are concerned. even to the untrained eye, things definately look out of square and a little twisted.

 

[dave6666]

I'm going to back step here a bit. Are you saying you had some repair work done to the frame, or that you discovered what looks like repair work done to the frame? Hence no "before" photos?

 

[plumcrazy]

id shoot the guy who fixed MY car like THAT.

without a doubt they need to fix it right. thats horrible work. thats what they call industry standard work. which is unacceptable to ME.

 

[DAMN YANKEE]

First......what happened to your Viper?

 

[SquadX]

The circled area is what you're talking about, right?
Looks like it's been "wacked". Did you have some frame repairs done? The paint on the area looks different. I'd ask the shop what happened. Did it fall off of the lift?

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Had a kink in the frame, very minor. Front, driver side frame rail. Nothing was painted. After the repair, I jacked the car up and noticed the front right control arm area and saw it where the control arm connects, it was pushed forward some (as you can see the the front bracket of the control arm is angeled forward but the rear one, the one that looks burnt, is pushed forward and burnt). I assume the burnt look comes from the heat used to repair the frame kink.

My thought is to have a viper tech take the control arm off and re-adjust/fix the brackets that hold the control arm.

 

[SquadX]

First......what happened to your Viper?

hit a curb, drive side front wheel and real passager side wheel (knuckle bearing). From what the viper tech told me, the frame had a kink but no other damage. the kink (ill post pics later) on the frame rail looks fine but that control arm is what concerns me. Car handles poor but needs an alignment at least because the tech said they couldn't get it on machine to alignment. I was going to take it to get aligned but want to get this straight first if it needs addressing. I planned on driving it to BJ (1:30 drive).

 

[SquadX]

Also, the pics are of the lower control arm so the pics are shown upside down I believe

 

[Fast Too]

Had a kink in the frame, very minor. Front, driver side frame rail. Nothing was painted. After the repair, I jacked the car up and noticed the front right control arm area and saw it where the control arm connects, it was pushed forward some (as you can see the the front bracket of the control arm is angeled forward but the rear one, the one that looks burnt, is pushed forward and burnt). I assume the burnt look comes from the heat used to repair the frame kink.

My thought is to have a viper tech take the control arm off and re-adjust/fix the brackets that hold the control arm.

Squad - Whats the story here we are not getting? Never heard of a "minor" kink in the frame. Did you wreck your car, buy a wrecked car, or discover it had been wrecked after buying it? I recall not to long ago you were looking for a reasonable price for an alignment in the Northern VA area. I assume the car must have been or is still pulling to the side and handles poorly as the Wizard mentioned.

 

[SquadX]

If that's how you got it back from a body shop, it was not done very well! I'm sure it handles like crap too?

Picture 1, look at the motor mount. It is out of place, so much that the pin on the mount is out of the slot on the frame!! Your Viper must have taken a good shot!!

Picture 3, look at the shinny spot on the control arm - is that a crack I see?

Picture 4, look at the impact marks - NOT good! Those can make the control arm weak! Also the repair on the bracket - poor job!

My 2-cents from looking at so few pictures.

Viper god.
In the first pic. I dont see what you are looking at. (if someone could circle it, it would be much appreciated).
In picture 3, from my observation, there was no cracks.

 

[SquadX]

Squad - Whats the story here we are not getting? Never heard of a "minor" kink in the frame. Did you wreck your car, buy a wrecked car, or discover it had been wrecked after buying it? I recall not to long ago you were looking for a reasonable price for an alignment in the Northern VA area. I assume the car must have been or is still pulling to the side and handles poorly as the Wizard mentioned.

Hi Too Fast,
Never wrecked, as stated I hit a curb doing about 20-25 (missed shifted) back end went out, glazed the rear tire on the curb then front driver side hit the other curb. Viper Tech side there was a minor kink in the frame and could be fixed. All the damage is straight from the viper tech. He corrected the frame kink (ill post pics) and, tried to fix the bracket on the control arm. when I picked up the car, I was told it needed an alignment because they could not get it on there machine. Before I took the car in, it pulled to the right, after I got it back, it pulls to the left. He said that he adjusted the alignment best he could without getting it on the machine but would need to ge an alignment. I am not trying to hide anything as I want to get honest opinions and this fixed. I posted on here about a month ago of what happened so some might remember. to go straight, I have to turn the wheel at an angle now. Same was true before it went into the shop but in the opposite direction.

 

[SquadX]

Squad - Whats the story here we are not getting? Never heard of a "minor" kink in the frame. Did you wreck your car, buy a wrecked car, or discover it had been wrecked after buying it? I recall not to long ago you were looking for a reasonable price for an alignment in the Northern VA area. I assume the car must have been or is still pulling to the side and handles poorly as the Wizard mentioned.

when I as asking about the alignment, this was before I changed my oil the other day and took at look at the control arm and noticed something was off. But as stated, the tech said I needed an alignment so I was going off what he said. I ll be speaking with his manager today or tomorrow about this. Any advise or recommendations on how to approach this? I doubt I'll get any money back and I surely dont want them fixing anything else on my car.

FYI-They had an 08 on their show room floor, blue.

 

[SquadX]

I'm going to back step here a bit. Are you saying you had some repair work done to the frame, or that you discovered what looks like repair work done to the frame? Hence no "before" photos?

Sorry, I didnt take before pic, I know. And Yes, after the frame rail repair.

 

[Fast Too]

Squad - Wasn't suggesting you were trying to hide something. Just wanted to understand the story of how all this came about. BJ Motors is an excellent choice to take your car to and get fixed as required. I have had a lot of work done there and can attest to their craftsmanship. Bernie is great and Brad is one hell of mechanic. You'll be in great hands. Give me a shout when you get up and running. I'm not far from you I believe and am always looking for someone to cruise with. Good luck on the fixes.

 

[mjorgensen Woodhouse]

From the looks of the frame rail the arm was "pushed" in pretty well. The frame will NEVER make it back to the original position the arm should be in and the castor will always be off. This will create a poor handling and "wandering" sensation. The correct repair would be to section the front rail and replace with a new or straight piece. Not a job for non Viper spec people IMO. The arm if it is original should always be replaced as there will be issues with the integrity of it or the ball joint on it.

I would NOT accept this as a suitable repair and know that if we sent this out to a customer I would expect to get it back!

Good luck but you need to get this done right.

 

[Ratical2]

My take on the pictures: If someone gave me my car back like this and said, " It's fixed", I would be less than pleased!

Good Luck and hope you get it sorted out.

 

[Asp Man]

What a freakin' nightmare! This is the kind of thing that would keep me awake until it's done right. I feel bad for you, good luck.

 

[heftygts]

Very poor repair , I do this kind of repair for a living and would never allow this out of our shop. see my repairs here...feel free to contact me and ask questions

http://forums.viperclub.org/rt-10-gts-discussions/609719-pics-my-00-acr-being-put-back-together.html

 

[dave6666]

Very poor repair , I do this kind of repair for a living and would never allow this out of our shop. see my repairs here...feel free to contact me and ask questions

http://forums.viperclub.org/rt-10-gts-discussions/609719-pics-my-00-acr-being-put-back-together.html

Saw those earlier. Would love to do a body off frame cleaning. Very nice work.

And SquadX, like everyone has been saying, sounds like you might need to revisit your repairs. At another place of business...

 

[SquadX]

From the looks of the frame rail the arm was "pushed" in pretty well. The frame will NEVER make it back to the original position the arm should be in and the castor will always be off. This will create a poor handling and "wandering" sensation. The correct repair would be to section the front rail and replace with a new or straight piece. Not a job for non Viper spec people IMO. The arm if it is original should always be replaced as there will be issues with the integrity of it or the ball joint on it.

I would NOT accept this as a suitable repair and know that if we sent this out to a customer I would expect to get it back!

Good luck but you need to get this done right.

Thanks, I will be talking to the service manager today (dodge dealership) about the poor work, just wanted opinions first to arm myself because I am expecting the usually BS.

 

[Fast Too]

Squad - out of curiosity what dealership is? I hope not Safford

 

[SquadX]

The circled area is what you're talking about, right?
Looks like it's been "wacked". Did you have some frame repairs done? The paint on the area looks different. I'd ask the shop what happened. Did it fall off of the lift?

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I assume what ASP Man has circled would come from the tech trying to correct something and not hitting the curb as the tip looks like its been ruffed up.

Ill post pics of the frame soon but the frame rail, from my observations the frame rail didnt' seem pushed in much when I viewed it on the lift before repairs.

 

[SquadX]

Squad - out of curiosity what dealership is? I hope not Safford

LOL...New Carrollton, MD. That was the closest to me that had a viper tech.

 

[SquadX]

Frame pic

These are the after repair frame pic.

 

[SquadX]

more frame pic

 

[SquadX]

more frame pic