Psst...
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MadMaxx
Enthusiast
Why won't it work for the 96 RT's?
James
James
Viper Wizard
Enthusiast
Sean,
Way cool!
I'd love to install one! [Hint-citysnake!
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MadMaxx-you have a GEN1 motor. Maybe Sean will come out with one for the GEN1's?
Way cool!
MadMaxx-you have a GEN1 motor. Maybe Sean will come out with one for the GEN1's?
MadMaxx
Enthusiast
the 96 still had the gen1 motor? Not cast pistons?
James
James
Viper Wizard
Enthusiast
James,
Your 96 RT has a GEN1 motor with rear exhaust [415hp].
GEN1 Supercharger?!
Your 96 RT has a GEN1 motor with rear exhaust [415hp].
GEN1 Supercharger?!
Matt M PA
Enthusiast
Sean..love the idea, looks great. I have never been more interested in a bolt-on mod. I was wondering about possible issues in durability not only for the blower but the engine, pistons, etc. And, are the gains posted accurate for all Gen 2s? Finally, for those of us with only tubes, filters, and slight exhaust mods....what should we expect? Thanks!
MadMaxx
Enthusiast
Ok.
Now he has to come out w/ a gen1 blower too!
ODB1 should be more friendly than 2. If it's a late gen1 motor then the headgasket issue shouldn't be a problem. Was it the pistons that would be an issue w/ a blower? Cast or forged?
MadMaxx
Now he has to come out w/ a gen1 blower too!
ODB1 should be more friendly than 2. If it's a late gen1 motor then the headgasket issue shouldn't be a problem. Was it the pistons that would be an issue w/ a blower? Cast or forged?
MadMaxx
CitySnake
Enthusiast
Pssst: Viper Wiz
Been there...done that....
Remember only "5 hour install".
(Hope Sean does lay-a-way
- actually future pain in my wallet is not really so funny
)
Been there...done that....
Remember only "5 hour install".
(Hope Sean does lay-a-way
FUSCUCLA1
Enthusiast
Sean already stated that when he is done with the trial and error stuff he was going to take the SC off and install it on his Gen I. This was weeks ago. I don't want to speak for Sean and I am sure he will chime in here but Gen I testing will soon begin if it already hasn't. If the 96 RTs are Gen I where is that additional HP coming from? I thought all Viper pistons were the same (forged) up until they did the cream puffs.
ElDiablo Viper
Enthusiast
5 hours?! To do it right it would take two days.
ggc
Viper Owner
FUSCUCLA1: The 96 RT has rear exhaust and that accounted for the extra 15hp I believe. It is a Gen 1 engine.
ACELLR8
Enthusiast
I would definitely be interested in one should one come available for a Gen I motor as well.
Either way, Looks like great power gains for a great price> Very Cool!!!
Either way, Looks like great power gains for a great price> Very Cool!!!
The only issue on the Gen 1 is the location of the alternator.
Everything else is easy. The Gen 1 even has a higher volume fuel pump already.
Regarding the question of "when", it will be when I can put one of the new manifolds on the GTS and not have to use the prototype any more. I expect some issues to overcome with alternator relocation or idler pulley configuration.
Definitely would be a torque monster.
Sean
It's 10 pm, I gotta go home
Everything else is easy. The Gen 1 even has a higher volume fuel pump already.
Regarding the question of "when", it will be when I can put one of the new manifolds on the GTS and not have to use the prototype any more. I expect some issues to overcome with alternator relocation or idler pulley configuration.
Definitely would be a torque monster.
Sean
It's 10 pm, I gotta go home
99 R/T 10
Enthusiast
Sean, I will be willing to take leave(vacation) and drive my 96 R/T to Jacksonville so that you can use my car as a prototype(just so you don't have to have two SC cars)
CAN WE DO IT? YES WE CAN!!! Let me know when to come down Sean, and just out of curiousity, do the Gen I injectors need to be switched to Gen II?
Mike
Mike
Serious Eric
Enthusiast
Sean,
My real concern about your S/C is the extra heat in a road-race application. Since it's a roots blower there's no possibility for intercooling and I'm concerned about added underhood heat and fuel/air heating under the stress of 45 minutes of WOT on a hot Texas summer day. Know what I'm talkin about?
I know 5 psi isn't much as S/Cs go, and for a few blasts down the dragstrip I'm sure there's no durability impact, but I have real questions about the road course. How much testing have you done in that area?
My real concern about your S/C is the extra heat in a road-race application. Since it's a roots blower there's no possibility for intercooling and I'm concerned about added underhood heat and fuel/air heating under the stress of 45 minutes of WOT on a hot Texas summer day. Know what I'm talkin about?
I know 5 psi isn't much as S/Cs go, and for a few blasts down the dragstrip I'm sure there's no durability impact, but I have real questions about the road course. How much testing have you done in that area?
Hi Eric,
There's room for an air charge cooler inside the intake manifold (under the blower discharge port). That handles the air temp issue. For the blower temperature, they can be plumbed, relatively easily, into the stock oil cooler to engine return line for a steady supply of cool oil.
One of the reasons we chose the particular brand we did was precisely because it has a good durability reputation in road race use. However, we have not done any track sessions on our test car, since it has the standard system without the upgrades. We won't do any track (road course) testing until we get those parts setup. Not necessary for street, autocross drag racing use.
Sean
There's room for an air charge cooler inside the intake manifold (under the blower discharge port). That handles the air temp issue. For the blower temperature, they can be plumbed, relatively easily, into the stock oil cooler to engine return line for a steady supply of cool oil.
One of the reasons we chose the particular brand we did was precisely because it has a good durability reputation in road race use. However, we have not done any track sessions on our test car, since it has the standard system without the upgrades. We won't do any track (road course) testing until we get those parts setup. Not necessary for street, autocross drag racing use.
Sean
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