Replacement pads and front rotor

[Schulmann]

After extensively lapping my 2006 Coupe I managed to finish my front rotors and pads. I need to replace them. They were quite good for about 20 lapping days.

What is a good combination of front rotor and pads ?

I would like to buy the stock rotors and run brakeman #3 on them.

 

[Viper X]

That combination should work well together.

There are many other combinations, depending on your budget and useage.

Dan

 

[rcl4668]

Jon B at Partsrack recommended Brakeman 3 all around as being a good track pad that offers more bite while at the same time being a little more rotor friendly and useable in wet weather conditions. Justr had them installed on my 08. I have also heard people recommend Mintex up front and stock pads rear.

 

[JonB]

We have Numerous HAPPY customers with BM-3 all around and several more with Mintex-VCC fronts with BM3 or even OE rears. Good at street-temps too.

PFC provides even MORE tip-in / onset braking, but are harder on rotors than Mintex or BM3. PFC is grabby wet, and prefers to be run hotter than street temps.

You cant beat the value per mile of OE rotors.....but they are HEAVY.....

[email protected] Thanks

 

[Schulmann]

I have reached a driving level where I need more braking power. Above 130mph the stock pad are not enough effective. I also need pads that work well cold and in wet conditions. We often do 20 min road race sessions. So the pads that I am looking for must heat up in 2 min after the first lap.

In the past I have used PFC pads but they eat up my rotos after 1000mi ... I could out brake any car with the PFC. I am still dreaming about those days when I over took 3-4 cars arriving into the turns ... But I need something less agressive that doesnt ruine my vallet.

I run my BMW with Hawk HP Plus and stock rotor. The combinaison is outstanding but I am not sure that this combination is perfect for a Viper.

I know that the stock rotors are heavy but the Viper has plenty of torque and I am not down to time my laps on the track. I am there for the fun and my friends.

 

[GR8_ASP]

I purchased BM3's based on Jon's recommendation. After a few track days, including one where I lost ABS due to a sensor failure I changes to BM3's up front and stock in the back. Overall feel and reduced squirreliness under heavy braking, and a degree more resistance to early rear lock-up in case I ever get the ABS failure again. I also run the 305/335 combo which adds more braking potential up front and reduced in back.

I also found stock front pads to overheat badly once I entered into the 130+ straight speed range.

 

[JonB]

I have reached a driving level where I need more braking power. Above 130mph the stock pad are not enough effective. I also need pads that work well cold and in wet conditions. We often do 20 min road race sessions. So the pads that I am looking for must heat up in 2 min after the first lap.

In the past I have used PFC pads but they eat up my rotos after 1000mi ... I could out brake any car with the PFC. I am still dreaming about those days when I over took 3-4 cars arriving into the turns ... But I need something less agressive that doesnt ruine my vallet.

I know that the stock rotors are heavy but the Viper has plenty of torque and I am not down to time my laps on the track. I am there for the fun and my friends.

I track my BM3 wet @ 135mph, hot days 155 mph. They go street cold-hot-cold or wet! Rotor-friendly too, unlike your PFC experiences. Good life-endurance as well.

Do NOT discount the benefit of lighter rotors. Heavy OE rotors sap 'braking power' due to extra rotating mass needing more friction = more heat.

I MUST ASSUME YOU HAVE SS LINES?!?!?

 

[Viper X]

The Stoptech / ACR Aero rotors are not only lighter but seem to be a bunch harder than the OE rotors, i.e. the OE rotors don't hold up nearly as well as the Stoptechs nor can you stop as well as long.

I would not run PFC's with OE rotors but do find that they work very well with Stoptech rotors when stopping a heavy car (Viper) from high speeds in high heat.

I keep the PFCs on all the time and have not had any cold weather issues, but then I live in So Cal where a cold winter day is 55 F.

It all depends on what you're trying to achieve and what you're willing to spend.

Dan

 

[Schulmann]

So can I run the following setup ?

Front: stock rotor and BM3
Rear: stock rotor and stock pad

Should I also upgrade the rear to BM3 ?

 

[rcl4668]

So can I run the following setup ?

Front: stock rotor and BM3
Rear: stock rotor and stock pad

Should I also upgrade the rear to BM3 ?

Just completed an HPDE at Pacific Raceways today with the Brakeman 3s all around. Fantastic and consistent stopping power all day with no fade whatsoever. I also have the Stoptech 2piece rotors.

/Rich

 

[Viper X]

Shulman,

The Gen III's seem to do better than the Gen II's with B3's all around.

I'd say go for it.

Dan