varanus
Enthusiast
Well with all of the ?? regarding the roe sc I thought I'd chime in:
Problem #1
I solved my traction problems with kuhmo tires allowing me with 4500 rpm launches and no loss of traction. Tonight on a 2nd gear roll on at 3,000 rpm tire tires started spinning because of the extra power from the sc . . .so Sean ...how you gonna fix my problem of spinng tires??
Problem #2
Some people at the car shows for other makes ( like mustangs) are upset with my showing the viper there with the hood up. It seems like it detracts from the rest of their cars. Comments like "Check out the viper . . omigod . .thats sick . . look it's got a blower" and "Check out the blower . .they did a real trick job with it. It must be custom made!"
So Sean, how do I make amends to these folks?
Problem #3
It will be too fast at the track thus Sean is forcing me to have to spend big $$ on a roll bar and 5 point harnesses. I was already on the edge of getting booted at 11.7, but now there is no way I will get past the first run with the sc. So Sean, thanks alot . .like I'm made of money or something??
In all seriousnous I have seen a little bit of aprehension and even a bit of "Roe bashing" since he shipped the first blowers out. I was one of the first 4 people to get theirs. I was in a unique situation of having crappy california gas. A few people were getting some detonation. After a few issues were resolved i am running 93 octane with NO detonation while using the VEC one. I will be testing the 91 octane over the next few weeks.
Honestly I expect a few more little things to pop up here and there in the future as weather changes from cool back to hot in summer, but nothing that can't be resolved. .I have learned that almost everyone who has a blower has a few tuning issues . .it's the nature of SC a car
I just wanted to say that for those that were in question about getting the Roe sc, don't hesitate. The power is awesome. I remember how excited I felt when I first put on the nitrous on my 97gts and the exhilaration (aka acceleration) of the 150 to 200 shot. Well the sc running on the streets and freeway is just the same . . only over and over..
There have been a few niggling problems of some detonation on the first few cars including mine and I saw some people using these as a way to discredit Sean and/or his sc. To me it's hitting below the belt. Sean was the first to actually produce and distribute a DIY kit. Others talked about it but are still in the beginning stages.
Honestly I admit that I did expect that I would bolt it on and just go. But I have learned a lot more and realize Sean was taking a big leap in producing a DIY since there are so many variables. Sean admits he has learned a lot too.
Hear is the bottom line IMHO. Yes the kit wasn't bolt on and go like we all expected ( at least not the first few kits) A little tweaking and revisions were learned that Sean will be including in all his future kits will probably make it the true bolt on kit.
I was a little disapointed at first when I had a few problems, not all of which were related to the sc kit. I didn't get too bummed out because Sean was always there for me. I knew that it would get all get resolved.
Sean called me numerous times-even from VOI and on weekends to see how everything was going. He disccussed at length other problems that the few other SC owners were having and solutions that were working. He always called me, I seldom called him. I even talked with him on a Saturday night while he was out at a resteraunt. This guy really cares about his customers.
So even though it wasn't perfect, I felt comfortable because Sean was in constant contact with me. Thinking back I have bought other products that didn't work out right and when the vendor ddn't return calls I had a bad feeling i was on my own. it was always an uncomfortable feeling knowing you got screwed over. With Sean I never felt that way because he was always in contact with me. He said we'd get this thing right, even if he had to fly to california and do it himself. I believe if it came down to it he would.
I have bought several items from Sean and have always received them promptly. He always returns phone calls PROMPTLY if you don't reach him and spends way more time on the phone with a customer than he should. I have dealt with a few vendors who never returned calls and when you finaly reached them you got the feeling they were trying to get you off of the phone (maybe I didn't say the magic words to them at the beginnig of the phone call "I've got lots of money I have tospend with you right now!")
Throughout the development of the sc kit over the last year I have read all of Sean's posts on the progress, tests, changes, dyno sheets, etc. He has been upfront with everyone. Even when I called with some of my high expectations, Sean could have told me "yeah sure, that will work" just to keep me on the order list. But he didn't,. Sometimes he told me things that I really didn't want to hear, the kind of things that could make me cancel my order, but they were honest answers. I have dealt with others that will agree to anything you say just to keep you buying.
It seems Sean's honesty has come back to haunt him. He has admitted that there were a few problems and others have used that as leverage against him and his products. But to anyone that has dealt with Sean, you know that he is a tremedous person to do business with and backs up everything he sells.
I know this sounds like the "ode to Sean Roe", but in this day and age where I have dealt with a lot of flakey people, Sean is a shing example of how to run a business. His customer service with me had me thinking tonight of how i deal with my customers in my business. I now see that i could really grow my business a lot more if I treated my customers like he treated me.
To those that are getting their sc soon . . .you will love the instant power and will not regret your decision. Everyone including my Viper tech who has seen the kit has remarked at how well it was designed. My Viper tech was impressed with the quality and completeness on the kit.
To any that backed out of taking delvery of the sc or traded down to a later date because you saw the posts on early problems, you are really missing out
BTW Sean has some interesting revisions for the sc happening that he hasn't announced, but they are going to pretty much solve any problems and those of us who have sc now or are on the list will benefit from this. I will let Sean post about it when he feels it is ready.
Problem #1
I solved my traction problems with kuhmo tires allowing me with 4500 rpm launches and no loss of traction. Tonight on a 2nd gear roll on at 3,000 rpm tire tires started spinning because of the extra power from the sc . . .so Sean ...how you gonna fix my problem of spinng tires??
Problem #2
Some people at the car shows for other makes ( like mustangs) are upset with my showing the viper there with the hood up. It seems like it detracts from the rest of their cars. Comments like "Check out the viper . . omigod . .thats sick . . look it's got a blower" and "Check out the blower . .they did a real trick job with it. It must be custom made!"
So Sean, how do I make amends to these folks?
Problem #3
It will be too fast at the track thus Sean is forcing me to have to spend big $$ on a roll bar and 5 point harnesses. I was already on the edge of getting booted at 11.7, but now there is no way I will get past the first run with the sc. So Sean, thanks alot . .like I'm made of money or something??
In all seriousnous I have seen a little bit of aprehension and even a bit of "Roe bashing" since he shipped the first blowers out. I was one of the first 4 people to get theirs. I was in a unique situation of having crappy california gas. A few people were getting some detonation. After a few issues were resolved i am running 93 octane with NO detonation while using the VEC one. I will be testing the 91 octane over the next few weeks.
Honestly I expect a few more little things to pop up here and there in the future as weather changes from cool back to hot in summer, but nothing that can't be resolved. .I have learned that almost everyone who has a blower has a few tuning issues . .it's the nature of SC a car
I just wanted to say that for those that were in question about getting the Roe sc, don't hesitate. The power is awesome. I remember how excited I felt when I first put on the nitrous on my 97gts and the exhilaration (aka acceleration) of the 150 to 200 shot. Well the sc running on the streets and freeway is just the same . . only over and over..
There have been a few niggling problems of some detonation on the first few cars including mine and I saw some people using these as a way to discredit Sean and/or his sc. To me it's hitting below the belt. Sean was the first to actually produce and distribute a DIY kit. Others talked about it but are still in the beginning stages.
Honestly I admit that I did expect that I would bolt it on and just go. But I have learned a lot more and realize Sean was taking a big leap in producing a DIY since there are so many variables. Sean admits he has learned a lot too.
Hear is the bottom line IMHO. Yes the kit wasn't bolt on and go like we all expected ( at least not the first few kits) A little tweaking and revisions were learned that Sean will be including in all his future kits will probably make it the true bolt on kit.
I was a little disapointed at first when I had a few problems, not all of which were related to the sc kit. I didn't get too bummed out because Sean was always there for me. I knew that it would get all get resolved.
Sean called me numerous times-even from VOI and on weekends to see how everything was going. He disccussed at length other problems that the few other SC owners were having and solutions that were working. He always called me, I seldom called him. I even talked with him on a Saturday night while he was out at a resteraunt. This guy really cares about his customers.
So even though it wasn't perfect, I felt comfortable because Sean was in constant contact with me. Thinking back I have bought other products that didn't work out right and when the vendor ddn't return calls I had a bad feeling i was on my own. it was always an uncomfortable feeling knowing you got screwed over. With Sean I never felt that way because he was always in contact with me. He said we'd get this thing right, even if he had to fly to california and do it himself. I believe if it came down to it he would.
I have bought several items from Sean and have always received them promptly. He always returns phone calls PROMPTLY if you don't reach him and spends way more time on the phone with a customer than he should. I have dealt with a few vendors who never returned calls and when you finaly reached them you got the feeling they were trying to get you off of the phone (maybe I didn't say the magic words to them at the beginnig of the phone call "I've got lots of money I have tospend with you right now!")
Throughout the development of the sc kit over the last year I have read all of Sean's posts on the progress, tests, changes, dyno sheets, etc. He has been upfront with everyone. Even when I called with some of my high expectations, Sean could have told me "yeah sure, that will work" just to keep me on the order list. But he didn't,. Sometimes he told me things that I really didn't want to hear, the kind of things that could make me cancel my order, but they were honest answers. I have dealt with others that will agree to anything you say just to keep you buying.
It seems Sean's honesty has come back to haunt him. He has admitted that there were a few problems and others have used that as leverage against him and his products. But to anyone that has dealt with Sean, you know that he is a tremedous person to do business with and backs up everything he sells.
I know this sounds like the "ode to Sean Roe", but in this day and age where I have dealt with a lot of flakey people, Sean is a shing example of how to run a business. His customer service with me had me thinking tonight of how i deal with my customers in my business. I now see that i could really grow my business a lot more if I treated my customers like he treated me.
To those that are getting their sc soon . . .you will love the instant power and will not regret your decision. Everyone including my Viper tech who has seen the kit has remarked at how well it was designed. My Viper tech was impressed with the quality and completeness on the kit.
To any that backed out of taking delvery of the sc or traded down to a later date because you saw the posts on early problems, you are really missing out
BTW Sean has some interesting revisions for the sc happening that he hasn't announced, but they are going to pretty much solve any problems and those of us who have sc now or are on the list will benefit from this. I will let Sean post about it when he feels it is ready.