No comparison! There are no base vipers, unless you talking trim. As far as performance there is fast and faster in the viper vocabulary.Great time indeed for performance wars! How will the models, or should the models, of Viper and Corvette be compared? Base C7 vs GTS, C7 Z06 vs Viper T/A, ACR vs ZR1? I know the C7 performance models are a few years out but maybe finally the comparisons will be apples to apples.
.08 Hardly a win. But a win is a win. With that said, this was the latest and great Viper who is still using the out going 2012 ZR1 as a benchmark. When the C7ZR1 gets out, I suspect it will wipe the floor with the "Trans AM" version of the 2014 Viper. With rumors of the New ZR1 being over 700hp, don't think for a moment that this "record" is going to stand for long. The viper is going to need some super flappy paddles, Carbon/Ceramic brakes, big ACR areo and a big bump in power to keep up. While Chevy drew 1st blood, SRT came back giving the ZR1 a minor blemish. Chevy's turn next....could it be the KO blow to the Viper or will it be a swing and a miss?
.08 Hardly a win. But a win is a win. With that said, this was the latest and great Viper who is still using the out going 2012 ZR1 as a benchmark. When the C7ZR1 gets out, I suspect it will wipe the floor with the "Trans AM" version of the 2014 Viper. With rumors of the New ZR1 being over 700hp, don't think for a moment that this "record" is going to stand for long. The viper is going to need some super flappy paddles, Carbon/Ceramic brakes, big ACR areo and a big bump in power to keep up. While Chevy drew 1st blood, SRT came back giving the ZR1 a minor blemish. Chevy's turn next....could it be the KO blow to the Viper or will it be a swing and a miss?
The radio has no effect on lap times. Just because GM isn't smart enough to sell a ******** track focused car doesn't mean everyone else has to sell cars with pleather couch seats.
Not the radio itself, but the accompanying speakers are HEAVY.4 high-end mid-range speakers with integrated tweeters could easilyweigh at least 20 lbs, with another 10-15 lbs for the subwoofer. I wouldn't go as far to say that 30-35 lbs would make or break the Viper's performance, but to say that the weight has NO effect at all contradicts the laws of physics
The SRT still beat the ZR1 with the MPSC. If SRT decided to replace the tires for track ones like the Trofeo. the difference would be around 0.5 sec i think.
So there are good news for the Viper. Vette guys should be afraid with the new ACR that will come with more power, maybe again with full aero and Trofeos on it.
It would probable hit a high 31's at Laguna Seca and maybe a lows 7 min at Nordschleife or under 7 at best
It would be fair to give the Viper the opportunity to have equivalent tires and breaks but that's where it stops. The ACR never was and never will be a true competitor to not only the ZR1, but cars in its class. The ZR1 would easily have smashed the TA with an ACR set up.
The aero on the ACR is unlike any other street car. The GTS already dynos more than the ZR1 so people can't complain there's a power issue. Of course more power will automatically help. The aero on the ACR makes the biggest difference. What do you think would happen if the ZR1 had an equivalent setup? Honestly? The Viper would still be catching up. It's not a fair comparison. You have to be honest.
It would be fair to give the Viper the opportunity to have equivalent tires and breaks but that's where it stops. The ACR never was and never will be a true competitor to not only the ZR1, but cars in its class. The ZR1 would easily have smashed the TA with an ACR set up.
The aero on the ACR is unlike any other street car. The GTS already dynos more than the ZR1 so people can't complain there's a power issue. Of course more power will automatically help. The aero on the ACR makes the biggest difference. What do you think would happen if the ZR1 had an equivalent setup? Honestly? The Viper would still be catching up. It's not a fair comparison. You have to be honest.
The aero on the ACR is unlike any other street car. The GTS already dynos more than the ZR1 so people can't complain there's a power issue. Of course more power will automatically help. The aero on the ACR makes the biggest difference. What do you think would happen if the ZR1 had an equivalent setup? Honestly? The Viper would still be catching up. It's not a fair comparison. You have to be honest.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]I do not think that you are aware of the 2013 model year cars available now. For instance, the Porsche 911 GT3RS has aero easily equal to the Gen IV ACR. The aero on the Gen V Viper TA is minimal. It only produces 300 pounds of additional down force. If you analyze the photos of the ZR1 utilized in the comparo test, it does have some aero on it. Probably close to what the Viper aero kit produces.
As someone already noted, Chevy does not use the ZR1 in competition. The ZR1 engine is subject, as also already mentioned, to heat soak.
The Gen V Viper with the mini aero kit beat the previous record time of the Gen IV ACR at Leguna Seca. When the Gen V ACR comes out with a full ACR aero treatment, its time will be MUCH faster. In fact, I would not be surprised to see a time that is more than two seconds faster.
The SRT team is lean and mean. Think of them as a special ops team capable of retasking and pivoting as necessary to produce a winning result. The Viper is one of very few production vehicles that has always had a policy of rolling improvements - even within a model year. I do not think that the Corvette development team has the same flexibility.
Bottom line. The Viper is back. It will, once again, eventually dominate its class in road racing. It will, once again, eventuall dominate its class in endurance racing. And everyone in the automotive world knows it. Why? Because the SRT Team is a very special group of people who have been through very tough times together and appreciate what they now have and their duty to use it to take on all comers and crush them.
I saw that same day, same dyno comparison on Viper Alley yesterday. The ZR1 made considerably more power, up to 85 ftlbs in the midrange, and still a significant amount at the top. Made me wonder how the TA managed basically the same lap times as I thought the two cars are similar weight.