SRT Viper on Top Gear USA tonight

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Had given up on these guys last year but will give it another shot. Thanks for the heads up!
 

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Not good.. the fat one we all know thinks the viper is not a real car. The skinny one could care less about the viper. And i have no idea what the third one thinks ? so not good the gen5 is gonna be on this crappy show tonight.
 

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Speeding thru a tunnel... what a novel concept.

I'm fat and I like the Viper
 

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Mobile Coffin.. Quote from the fat guy that love the viper so much :eater: can wait to hear the rest :eater:
 

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isn't every car a Mobile Coffin if you have no idea how to drive the damn thing?
 

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describing how frustrating it is to drive the Viper slowly... "Imagine drinking a *** of coffee, and then trying to stay still for an MRI"
 

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Not good.. the fat one we all know thinks the viper is not a real car. The skinny one could care less about the viper. And i have no idea what the third one thinks ? so not good the gen5 is gonna be on this crappy show tonight.

The real problem is that it appears to be another critical review, against two other cars in a different class..

These critical reviews do not draw people to stealerships to buy a NEW ONE.....ruins sales.

BUT THEN AGAIN. Harley Davidsons ALLWAYS end up dead last in every comparison review I have ever read in Motorcyclist and Cycle world magazine ( yes every Harley is also rated #12 out 12 in a comparo), and yet Harleys out sell the higher rated cruiser bikes they are compared to usually 10 to 1.... so go figure.

40 years of bad reviews and coming in last place in EVERY motorcycle magazine comparo has never hurt Harley Davidson sales.
 
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I thought it wasn't bad overall, but I missed the first 15 minutes so maybe I skipped the platitudes about the other 2 cars. I think the best part is that they picked the Viper to be in this group of three... certainly could have used a F458 or (worse) a ZR1.


I had to describe Top Gear to someone the other day who had never seen it... I said it starts out from a place of reviewing automobiles but degenerates into a comedy show, so although it can be fun to watch it's not a legitimate barometer of the quality / performance of the cars. Perfect example, they give the hardest car to handle to the worst driver of the bunch and tell him to unload on it in a 2 lane tunnel. If they give Tanner the keys to all 3 cars for a test like that I think the results are closer.

I do think it is good for the Viper's image to be compared with talked about in the same comparison with those 2 for the whole show... hear the word "supercar" used over and over with it can't be a bad thing.
 

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Top Gear UK is not a car show ... it's a comedy show that uses motor vehicles for props and punchlines, and quite successfully. Example: Jeremy Clarkson on the 911 instrument panel--"If I had stuffed all the gauges and switches in my nose and mouth, and sneezed them out all over the dashboard, it could not have been any more disorganized than it actually is." He seems to hate 911s. Top Gear Magazine is one of the better car rags, more serious than funny, but way too expensive. I read it for free in Barnes & Noble over a $4 coffee and cookie combo.

Flop Gear USA tries to be a car show, sort of tries to be funny, but any one of the three guys on real Top Gear is three times funnier than Foust, Ferrara (I think that's his name--and you're not much of a comedian when somebody else has to announce you're a professional comedian because nobody can figure that out from just watching you), and Rutledge combined. It's just another float in the sorry parade of nonsensical crap that pushed any and all actual History off of the once-monumental History Channel.

Still and all, I remember the very first Flop Gear episode beginning with Tanner driving a Gen 4 convertible around, having what looked like a good time, and saying neat things like "Vipers are quintessentially American--all power, no finesse." I'm DVRing the rerun of tonight's ep and we'll see if they've improved any at all.
 

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The only comedian id enjoy giving it a thrashing would be Corolla.

You gotta love a guy that says he only is in show business to have money to race.
 

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Pretty funny how they pull over to read texts... Viper has UConnect:dunno: Car looks awesome in that Stryker red. Dolph FTW !!!
 

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Top Gear UK is not a car show ... it's a comedy show that uses motor vehicles for props and punchlines, and quite successfully. Example: Jeremy Clarkson on the 911 instrument panel--"If I had stuffed all the gauges and switches in my nose and mouth, and sneezed them out all over the dashboard, it could not have been any more disorganized than it actually is." He seems to hate 911s. Top Gear Magazine is one of the better car rags, more serious than funny, but way too expensive. I read it for free in Barnes & Noble over a $4 coffee and cookie combo.

Got to disagree there. While Jeremy Clarkson's analogies are extremely entertaining that doesn't give any less credibility to them. He seems to hate a lot of great cars, like muscle cars for example, but most of his reviews are very informative. Top Gear UK is definitely a car show, arguably the best car show ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMp_o9-0I_g

Jeremy Clarkson was once a viper lover too.
 

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How does this show stay on the air. Calling it "Top Gear" is as insulting to Britain as calling it "Top Gear USA" is to America. The chemistry among those guys is horrible and their attempts to mimick the original trio in whitty remarks, etc., is embarassing. Could've been a super cool show but they just picked the super wrong people to be on it.
 

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I do think it is good for the Viper's image to be compared with talked about in the same comparison with those 2 for the whole show... hear the word "supercar" used over and over with it can't be a bad thing.

This is my takeaway from the show. The Viper is the only production car in the US right now that could be put next to a Lambo and McLaren and look like it fits right in. Corvette? NO WAY! Not even when they come out with their uber-Vette would it look like it belongs. The placement of the Viper with these two cars is important for its image.
 

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Got to disagree there. While Jeremy Clarkson's analogies are extremely entertaining that doesn't give any less credibility to them. He seems to hate a lot of great cars, like muscle cars for example, but most of his reviews are very informative. Top Gear UK is definitely a car show, arguably the best car show ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMp_o9-0I_g

Jeremy Clarkson was once a viper lover too.

Fairly true, each person has their own style. It's worth noting too that the cars between the States and Europe are fairly different in their design market. The US was built on highways and long road trips and huge cars of the past. Driving across the US is a multi-day ordeal. Europe grew out of tiny towns packed together and dense cities built around foot traffic. You can drive almost drive across Europe in a day as well. They have a need for nimbler cars with their twisty roads and more diverse landscape. In the US we just knock the hills down so our roads stay flat, lol.

And I'll still never forget that the ACR is the top car on their lap times. I follow the UK rules, so I don't count the lap that Tanner's Ford rally car did. I don't consider that a street legal or really even purchasable vehicle to the public. Would be fun to see the ACR on the UK boards, but they haven't tested a Viper on the show since the start of the gen 3 (and I believe it's time was even in the wet, so really not much of a comparison). I don't recall them taking the gen 5 around the track when it was on their show (unless it was done off-air and they posted the results online). For all the more they knock the Viper (mainly just because it's American), you get the impression they still respect it. As Jeremy might put it, it's like the big Lambos of old. Tons of power, horribly dangerous, and ready to kill you at any second around a corner, but you'll have a smile on your face the whole way through.
 

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the show is generally unwatchable. the Viper did look great with those other two cars and even more impressive from some angles.
 

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it will be interesting to see how the gen 5 acr and new Corvette Z stack up against those two cars
 

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Was there any surprise? The Viper launched on a painted surface at the run way and was driven by Adam.

Not that it should be faster than the Mclaren, but when you have Foust driving that car its no contest.
 

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Did I see it wrong, or was the Amish guy who gave up his hat the guy from Amish Mafia (the giant dumb one)? Are those two shows on the same network?

Anyhow, the show got me wanting a McLaren even more now than I did before. A few months ago I went to a restaurant up the road from my house, and some uber-rich guy had a 12C parked just up the street from my (now-murdered) ACR. That McLaren was beautiful - but I can't see dropping $300k on a car. I'll wait for the Gen V ACR to come out and (hopefully) set a new standard for semi-affordable supercars :)
 

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Was there any surprise? The Viper launched on a painted surface at the run way and was driven by Adam.

Not that it should be faster than the Mclaren, but when you have Foust driving that car its no contest.

I know right. You have a LC paddled car driven by a professional that is actually on asphalt and then the viper on a strip of paint with a comedian/actor/anything I can get paid to do on TV/guy driving it. And the results are ... As you say, wouldn't expect it to win, but could fare much better if given even half a chance, geesh. The only thing the show is missing is the word "fail" in its title.
 

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