Stock GTS and Nitrous ... anyone?

[Tusc]

Ok, so this is all purely hypothetical at the moment. But who sells a good nitrous system for the Viper? I am looking at 97 GTS.

I know NOS offers a 135hp dry kit. But I'm not a big fan of dry. Do tuners offer custom wet kits? Anything from Nitrous Express? I've come to trust them in the past. Worse comes to worst it isn't difficult to make my own system, but I'm curious.


Does anyone offer a full service kit? That is, all the basic equipment plus nitrous mastermind, bottle heater, remote valve opener, throttle position sensor, fuel pressure gauge, rev limiter box, etc?

What kind of 1/4 could be expected from a GTS with headers + cat-back, smooth tubes and K&N from a 150 shot? 200?

And most of all, since I am really curious whether or how much shops will price gouge for Vipers, what does the kit cost?

 

[Tusc]

Answered some of my own questions. Ah, the power of archives and a good search engine.

 

[TOOOFST]

My kit good for 150rwhp comes with everthing you mentioned minus the Mastermind,its completely custom down to the Aluminum fabricated polished bottle brackets.Get the VEC1 from roe racing with the NOS its proven and visual.After initial install,to remove/re-install including bottle bracket assembly,minutes.Kit $3000.

 

[MES]

Ok, so this is all purely hypothetical at the moment. But who sells a good nitrous system for the Viper? I am looking at 97 GTS.

- BTR

I know NOS offers a 135hp dry kit. But I'm not a big fan of dry.

- Only for use with a Gen I car, not a GTS

Do tuners offer custom wet kits?

- Several tuners here do, I use BTR

Anything from Nitrous Express? I've come to trust them in the past. Worse comes to worst it isn't difficult to make my own system, but I'm curious.

- NX makes a good wet kit do a search, there are several here that sell them for under $1K and it makes about 125 HP to the wheels.

Does anyone offer a full service kit? That is, all the basic equipment plus nitrous mastermind, bottle heater, remote valve opener, throttle position sensor, fuel pressure gauge, rev limiter box, etc?

- Not really. They just piece them together the same as you could by ordering the parts through places such as jegs.com

What kind of 1/4 could be expected from a GTS with headers + cat-back, smooth tubes and K&N from a 150 shot? 200?

- Depends on the tires and driver, slicks & skinnies + good driver = 10's but with street tires you going 11's

And most of all, since I am really curious whether or how much shops will price gouge for Vipers, what does the kit cost?

- Install it yourself or send your car to BTR or DLM in Miami. I would not trust anyone to install the kit onto my car except those 2 places. BTW I did the install myself and it was fairly complicated. I knew that Electronic Engineering degree would pay off some day

In reality your going to end up spending $2-$4K for a nitrous kit installed. Why do that when you could get one of the DIY supercharger kits coming out this summer for just a bit more, hardly seems worth it.

 

[Tusc]

Mmm, yes, been skowering the posts about the DIY blowers. I am a DIY guy at heart, I love tearing cars apart or just working on them. The RS has been a work of love, though all that wiring did get annoying at one point. I came close to finishing it in the Fall but parked it for the winter. Just unwrapped her last week and will probably be spending more time with it in the next month as the weather gets better.

I had to say, when I started looking at the tuner blower kits for the Vipers like the DLM using the Novi 2000 un-intercooled and charging $18,000+ for parts and install? I was a bit flaberghasted. $18,000 for all of $2500 worth of parts? Or probably even less at the shop's prices. I am going to have to do a totally custom install on my RS when the time comes, no quick and easy kit for what I have set up. And looking at what has been offered for the Vipers up until now or the near future I was just going to piece my own system together and roll from there. I did a rough expense chart and I think I could get away with all of the blower system plus fueling needs for about $3000 and then dump as much as an extra $1000 on having a shop program and dyno-tune it for me since I know of no direct interface program for the Viper PCM. Closest thing I have seen is the VEC-1. Although I haven't read up on it in detail, the adjust on the fly feature suggests that it simply splices or plugs into the harness at such a point that it is connected to the TPS and O2s and "intercepts" the signals back to the PCM, altering them as you have adjusted for leaner or richer conditions based on TPS position. I'm sure it works pretty well, but fooling your PCM doesn't strike me as the best way to go. Maybe I just haven't learned enough about it yet, so I could be totally wrong.

But again, all of this is neither here nor there until the state settles my lemon law case and I know exactly what I have in my pocket from this whole circus nightmare.